Evidence for God from Science

Well what say you?

Real, fake? What's the opinion of other members?

I have no idea on this subject and would like some input.

I know that the Bible take precedence above all other written works. But it is a curiosity.

As far as I can tell from what I have read / heard it would only change opinion on the true motives and actions of Judas, he would no longer be a traitor but a person who sacrificed his future. His name has been associated with badness ever since his selling out Jesus.

It would not take away from the glory of God; just change our opinion of Judas from zero to hero.

Any input from others?

Also I am thinking about getting it to read.

JCSx2 wrote:Well what say you?

Real, fake? What's the opinion of other members?

I have no idea on this subject and would like some input.

I know that the Bible take precedence above all other written works. But it is a curiosity.

As far as I can tell from what I have read / heard it would only change opinion on the true motives and actions of Judas, he would no longer be a traitor but a person who sacrificed his future. His name has been associated with badness ever since his selling out Jesus.

It would not take away from the glory of God; just change our opinion of Judas from zero to hero.

Any input from others?

Also I am thinking about getting it to read.

It is a fairly typical gnostic gospel. Judas was actually a favorite of the Gnostics because since he was dead there was plenty of mystery surrounding him and little means to dispute it.

There's not a lot of textual value to it. National Geographic and Elaine Pagels group hyped it way beyond what it was due. The Gospel of Thomas actually had more value in the sense that any variant textual tradition being present on a case by base basis on each logian.

It's a curiosity. It won't take long to read. The hype focused on a few cryptic verses and ignored the rest of it because looking at the whole things takes it out of the realm of textual importance and that apparently wasn't the goal of the people trying to promote it.

Jesus doesn't give a good character assessment of Judas:-

Matthew 26:24 "The Son of Man will go just as it is written about him. But woe to that man who betrays the Son of Man! It would be better for him if he had not been born."

I was talking about Judas with my wife today. She says, "go have a read of the nag-hammadi texts" - we just happen to have a translation of them sitting on the book shelf.

I thought to myself, "I'll probably die of old age before getting through that book."

There are obviously some people that think Judas knew the plan and was secretly playing along with God's plan.

A lot of people think he was a tad wicked and so God cleverly made use of that wickedness to get Jesus handed over to the Romans.

I'll have to try and find the relevant passages in the nag-hammadi texts to see what that point of view is (just out of curiosity).


If anyone wants to read the texts, look at the codecies found in the wiki links at the bottom of the page here -> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nag_Hammadi_library



Good Luck.