Organisms on other planets..

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Organisms on other planets..

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Post by Jay_7 » Fri Jan 27, 2006 2:37 am

Whats the point of them? why did God put them there?

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Post by ray » Fri Jan 27, 2006 5:43 am

Why did God put 'what' there, planets or organisms?

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Post by SUGAAAAA » Fri Jan 27, 2006 12:27 pm

what organisms are you talking about?
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Post by Jay_7 » Fri Jan 27, 2006 1:08 pm

You know how they find small organisms on other planets such as mars.. why are they there

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Post by IRQ Conflict » Fri Jan 27, 2006 1:13 pm

As far as I know there have been this many 0 lifeforms discovered on other planets.
If there are / were life I don't have a clue why there would be.
A huge variety of living things populates Earth -- plants, birds, fish, mammals -- while not even one living organism has been found on any other planet or moon in our solar sytem.
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Post by Jay_7 » Fri Jan 27, 2006 1:24 pm

IRQ Conflict wrote:As far as I know there have been this many 0 lifeforms discovered on other planets.
If there are / were life I don't have a clue why there would be.
A huge variety of living things populates Earth -- plants, birds, fish, mammals -- while not even one living organism has been found on any other planet or moon in our solar sytem.
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Oh, ok. Thanks. More reasons too believe in a God if nothing is "evolving" elsewhere.

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Post by Jay_7 » Fri Feb 03, 2006 8:37 pm

Hey.

I found a few sites and articles about organisms on other planets, Why would God put them there? Whats the purpose?

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Post by IRQ Conflict » Sat Feb 04, 2006 1:26 am

:? link?
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Post by BGoodForGoodSake » Sat Feb 04, 2006 3:14 pm

Jay_7 wrote:Hey.

I found a few sites and articles about organisms on other planets, Why would God put them there? Whats the purpose?
lol
De Ja Vu.

There are no known lifeforms or remains of lifeforms outside of Earth's biosphere.

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Post by IRQ Conflict » Sun Feb 05, 2006 8:15 am

Jay, here are some things to read if your still confused.

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Post by michaelh2951 » Sat Feb 11, 2006 5:52 am

If life on other planets had been found, trust me, we would all have known about it and not have had to track down obscure websites to confirm this!

But:
"...More reasons too believe in a God if nothing is "evolving" elsewhere."

Isn't that a rather ignorant and quick assumption? Need I point out the rest of space we have not explored?

But I think the real hypothetical question remains: IF we found life on other planets, how could it be explained through religion?

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Post by Jac3510 » Sat Feb 11, 2006 7:31 am

I'm not sure why it would create a problem for religion? At least, not for Christianity. It seems to me the only argument to come up would be, "If Christianity were true, why would God create lifeforms on other planets?" But this is an argument of incredulity. Why did God create starts billions of light years away that have no direct bearing on the existence of earth? The question seems to assume that everything in the universe has to work for the first and primary benefit of mankind, which is simply not the case. That makes theology, and the universe as a whole, anthrocentric (based around man). In reality, both should be theocentric.

Here's a practical example of this. God placed Adam in the garden to work it. God also went into the garden and walked with Adam. Now, I ask, why? Was it "to give Adam something to do"? Was it all, even the garden paradise, for his benefit? I don't think so. I believe it was for God's own enjoyment. God made a world that was largely uncultivated. He then made a being that would represent Himself in this world and He commanded it to cultivate the world. He gave this being, called Man, an example, called the Garden of Eden.

God would, then, come and enjoy two things. First, He would enjoy the creation itself. Second, He would enjoy the labor of Man's hands. This, in fact, would bring even greater joy. How much joy does it bring a mother to post a picture drawn by her young son on the refridgerator? And how much more joy would it bring if the drawing was actually of a high quality? The same would be true for God and Man. Man was to cultivate the world, not for his own pleasure, but for the pleasure of God. This was the purpose of Man, and fulfilling that purpose, he would find his own fulfillment.

In this example, we see a theocentric theology that is far different from the standard anthrocentric models we often encounter. I would suggest that the only theological models that would have problems with life on other planets would be anthrocentric models.

But with all that said, for the record, I would be surprised (though not alarmed by any stretch of the imagination) if we did find life elsewhere. But, that's just me. :)
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Post by Locker » Sun Feb 12, 2006 10:36 am

Jac3510 wrote:I'm not sure why it would create a problem for religion? At least, not for Christianity. It seems to me the only argument to come up would be, "If Christianity were true, why would God create lifeforms on other planets?" But this is an argument of incredulity. Why did God create starts billions of light years away that have no direct bearing on the existence of earth? The question seems to assume that everything in the universe has to work for the first and primary benefit of mankind, which is simply not the case. That makes theology, and the universe as a whole, anthrocentric (based around man). In reality, both should be theocentric.

Here's a practical example of this. God placed Adam in the garden to work it. God also went into the garden and walked with Adam. Now, I ask, why? Was it "to give Adam something to do"? Was it all, even the garden paradise, for his benefit? I don't think so. I believe it was for God's own enjoyment. God made a world that was largely uncultivated. He then made a being that would represent Himself in this world and He commanded it to cultivate the world. He gave this being, called Man, an example, called the Garden of Eden.

God would, then, come and enjoy two things. First, He would enjoy the creation itself. Second, He would enjoy the labor of Man's hands. This, in fact, would bring even greater joy. How much joy does it bring a mother to post a picture drawn by her young son on the refridgerator? And how much more joy would it bring if the drawing was actually of a high quality? The same would be true for God and Man. Man was to cultivate the world, not for his own pleasure, but for the pleasure of God. This was the purpose of Man, and fulfilling that purpose, he would find his own fulfillment.

In this example, we see a theocentric theology that is far different from the standard anthrocentric models we often encounter. I would suggest that the only theological models that would have problems with life on other planets would be anthrocentric models.

But with all that said, for the record, I would be surprised (though not alarmed by any stretch of the imagination) if we did find life elsewhere. But, that's just me. :)
Yea - life may exist somewhere else for whatever purposes God has for doing so. It does not really matter if it does or not and if so - would not disprove the bible.

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Post by Preach » Mon Feb 13, 2006 8:29 pm

From what I know so far, the Bible is silent in regards to organisms on other worlds. One way to look at this is to assume this means wether or not there is life on other worlds is irrelevant to the main topics discussed in the Bible.
Another way to look at this is to say that infinite time offers plenty of opportunity for boredom. Let's say we were to live forever in the afterlife....certainly the ability to spend time on other worlds and relish other parts of God's creation that were previously unknown to us would be quite exhilerating :). The Bible even says that there are things prepared for us in the next life that "no eye hath seen". Hmmm...

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Post by IRQ Conflict » Mon Feb 13, 2006 11:49 pm

Here is a site that I beleive points in the right direction as far as 'alien life' is concerned.
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