How could God be Tempted by the devil?

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Re: How could God be Tempted by the devil?

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Post by Blessed » Sat Dec 30, 2017 9:03 pm

Philip wrote:I think that if Satan didn't know Jesus was God, it would be surprising. He certainly highly suspected it, as he had zeroed in on this one, then-unremarkable man. But Satan also had to know of the prophecies of the child to be born, and WHERE, and that He would be considered Holy God. He certainly was in some way responsible for all of the children put to death in the vicinity of Bethlehem. Did NO demon see the night sky filled with angels announcing Jesus' birth? Did he not know of the star that guided the wise men? Satan knew of all of these things, and no doubt had been watchful of the child born in Bethlehem. And if the Matthew 4 temptation account is chronological in time, how then would Satan have gone to this one, poor Jewish carpenter? And while Satan could inspire murder, he obviously had certain constraints upon what he could do to Jesus, the Apostles, and those within God's plans.
If Satan knew Jesus was God...why enter Judas? Why hasten the Crucifixion? Doesn't make sense.

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Re: How could God be Tempted by the devil?

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Post by DBowling » Sun Dec 31, 2017 5:05 am

Blessed wrote: If Satan knew Jesus was God...why enter Judas? Why hasten the Crucifixion? Doesn't make sense.
From Satan's perspective it makes perfect sense, and for a brief moment Satan probably considered the murder of Jesus to be his greatest victory against God.

Satan is not God's peer. Satan may be a powerful spirit being but he is still a created being.
Satan is not all powerful.
Satan is not all knowing.
Satan does not know the future.

So when the Word (who was with God and who was God) emptied himself and became flesh, Satan could have easily thought that God had put himself in a vulnerable position.
By killing Jesus, Satan could have thought he was ending or at least delaying the Kingdom of God that Jesus talked so much about.
And to have one of Jesus' inner circle of disciples play a role in betraying Jesus could be perceived as a master stroke against God.

Since Satan was not omniscient and did not know the future, he was unaware that what he thought would be his greatest victory against God would backfire horribly when Jesus defeated sin and death and rose from the dead.

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Re: How could God be Tempted by the devil?

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Post by Philip » Sun Dec 31, 2017 10:42 am

DBowling: Since Satan was not omniscient and did not know the future, he was unaware that what he thought would be his greatest victory against God would backfire horribly when Jesus defeated sin and death and rose from the dead.

Which shows that even Satan can be used as a tool for God, for good.

"As for you, you meant evil against me, but God meant it for good..." (Genesis 50:20)

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Re: How could God be Tempted by the devil?

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Post by thatkidakayoungguy » Sun Dec 31, 2017 4:45 pm

PaulSacramento wrote:
Indeed, yet he never strikes out at God.
At His creation, yes, His angels, for sure, His chosen people, yes, but not at God directly.
That's cuz satan's a troll.

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