Martin Luther and John Calvin and the term "Mother of God"

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RickD wrote:K,

I think you meant that song for Jac. I think he's officially lost his marbles. All of them.
I have. When I was sixteen or seventeen I lost the last one. I was very sad. It was blue, sort of clearish, looked like it had a model of the galaxy inside of it. A very pretty thing. But now it is gone, forever, I fear. If I thought the prayers of Mary would help find it, I would have long offered them. But my faith is weak, and so, yes, my marbles, all of them, long lost.

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Gotta admit that tattoo Jac posted is incredible - almost doesn't look real.
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Philip wrote:Gotta admit that tattoo Jac posted is incredible - almost doesn't look real.
Yes, it almost looks supernatural.
John 5:24
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Philip wrote:
Gotta admit that tattoo Jac posted is incredible - almost doesn't look real.

Rick: Yes, it almost looks supernatural.
Only if she starts weeping tears of blood.
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Last night while in bed, I started thinking...

What if I were wrong about all this Mary stuff?

So for the heck of it, I decided to pray to Mary, and ask for a sign if she's real.

When I woke up in the morning, and made breakfast, I nearly peed myself when I saw this:
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I do believe! :samen:
John 5:24
24 “Truly, truly, I say to you, he who hears My word, and believes Him who sent Me, has eternal life, and does not come into judgment, but has passed out of death into life.


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RickD wrote:Last night while in bed, I started thinking...

What if I were wrong about all this Mary stuff?

So for the heck of it, I decided to pray to Mary, and ask for a sign if she's real.

When I woke up in the morning, and made breakfast, I nearly peed myself when I saw this:
Image

I do believe! :samen:
How do you know it's not the work of the devil? Just because there's a miracle, doesn't automatically mean it's God. There are invisible forces God also allows to work in the world who are anti-God.
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Kurieuo wrote:
RickD wrote:Last night while in bed, I started thinking...

What if I were wrong about all this Mary stuff?

So for the heck of it, I decided to pray to Mary, and ask for a sign if she's real.

When I woke up in the morning, and made breakfast, I nearly peed myself when I saw this:
Image

I do believe! :samen:
How do you know it's not the work of the devil? Just because there's a miracle, doesn't automatically mean it's God. There are invisible forces God also allows to work in the world who are anti-God.
It wasn't God. It was Mary. I prayed to Mary, not God.

When I find myself in times of trouble, Mother Mary comes to me
Speaking words of wisdom, let it be
And in my hour of darkness she is standing right in front of me
Speaking words of wisdom, let it be
Let it be, let it be, let it be, let it be
Whisper words of wisdom, let it be1
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Let's all sing a hymn to Holy Mary, Mother of God.

https://youtu.be/KLpIexoF-1A?t=15s
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Kurieuo wrote:Let's all sing a hymn to Holy Mary, Mother of God.

https://youtu.be/KLpIexoF-1A?t=15s
Let's not start that again!
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RickD wrote:
Kurieuo wrote:Let's all sing a hymn to Holy Mary, Mother of God.

https://youtu.be/KLpIexoF-1A?t=15s
Let's not start that again!
The least she deserves for the drawing her face on your toast.
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My wife worked at this hospital when this was going on.

http://www.visionsofjesuschrist.com/weeping155.htm

People were coming from all over, to see "Mary with child", in the window.
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Hey, my mom was "Mary." But I didn't call her Mother Mary.
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Kurieuo wrote:
RickD wrote:Last night while in bed, I started thinking...

What if I were wrong about all this Mary stuff?

So for the heck of it, I decided to pray to Mary, and ask for a sign if she's real.

When I woke up in the morning, and made breakfast, I nearly peed myself when I saw this:
Image

I do believe! :samen:
How do you know it's not the work of the devil? Just because there's a miracle, doesn't automatically mean it's God. There are invisible forces God also allows to work in the world who are anti-God.
Dont be silly....

If it was satan, she would be picking her nose or giving the finger :P

Easy to tell!
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Well, is that a third eye I see on her forehead? Signature of the devil. ;)
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Jesus' conception -- a strange story.

Luke 1:

26 In the sixth month, the angel Gabriel was sent by God to a town in Galilee called Nazareth, 27 to a virgin engaged to a man named Joseph, of the house of David. The virgin’s name was Mary. 28 And the angel came to her and said, “Rejoice, favored woman! The Lord is with you.” 29 But she was deeply troubled by this statement, wondering what kind of greeting this could be. 30 Then the angel told her:

Do not be afraid, Mary,
for you have found favor with God.
31 Now listen:
You will conceive and give birth to a son,
and you will call His name Jesus.
32 He will be great
and will be called the Son of the Most High,
and the Lord God will give Him
the throne of His father David.
33 He will reign over the house of Jacob forever,
and His kingdom will have no end.


34 Mary asked the angel, “How can this be, since I have not been intimate with a man?”[j]

35 The angel replied to her:

“The Holy Spirit will come upon you,
and the power of the Most High will overshadow you.
Therefore, the holy One to be born
will be called the Son of God.


After this speech for the Angel Gabriel, Mary would have known what I underlined.

Mary will have a son, who will be called the Son of the Most High; His kingdom will have no end; He will be holy and called the Son of God.

However, look at the evidence of Mary's unbelief and the unbelief of Jesus' brothers and sisters. They believed after Jesus died and rose from the dead.

Isn't it obvious that Mary did not believe this message from God?

Isn't it obvious that Mary did not consider herself the Mother of God and that we shouldn't either?
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