Jac, from what I can see, is trying to be more inline perhaps with Hebraic thought where "life" is simply had based upon a body and breath of life = living soul. There is no real distinction between a physical body and spiritual body, rather "dirt" + "breath" = life. One must actually overlay additional thinking on top of this formula seen in Genesis 2:7 to get something more.
Going with this thought, not only is there our soul/spirit (same thing) + body, but the ties of both are so close that "life" or a "living soul" is only possible with both present. Hence, why Jac says, you can't be dead in one body and alive in another, it just doesn't make sense with the ontology he is accepting, which is, I think, well supported in the OT, although I haven't by any means closely examined all relevant passages.
On the other hand, and I believe more support can be mustered in the NT, but more modern thinking, perhaps due to Greek influences I don't know... but some create more of a clear division of sorts (including myself once, although today I'm less decided) -- such that there is a spiritual body and a physical body, both of which envelope around some immaterial essence (i.e., soul) at our core.
I held to this for a long while, but then a year or so ago I came across an issue with it. I'm just not sure that when talking of our immaterial self, then thinking of "spirit" in materialist terms -- for example, that there is some sort of ghostly or ethereal substance -- I'm not sure that such is logically consistent and without contradiciton. Either our immaterial has no substance, it just is thanks to God, hence we have no spiritual "bodies" -- or in addition to the physical world we must create a spiritual world (which isn't "immaterial", but rather "ethereal material") which our immaterial soul exists within thanks to God.
What I'm getting at, is the difference I see, really comes back to one's ontology of human beings, whether we're comprised of a soul (immaterial), a spiritual body (material) and physical body (material) OR whether one just sees human life (soul) as being comprised of one body brought to life.
NOW, whichever view one holds to, I don't think it matters to understand "death" per se. We know only God gives life, therefore as Matthew 10:28 says, only God can destroy (i.e., bring death to) both body and soul. It is true that once our physical lives end, then we have physical death. It is equally true then that if we have spiritual bodies enveloped around us, our eyes to the spiritual world and God if you will, that then these spiritual bodies could die. Then finally, the immaterial part of us that God sustains regardless of any body, such too if God FULLY stopped sustaining such in any way, shape or form, such would just vanish (i.e., we'd be fully dead as dead can be, annihilated). There is no coming back after that, if God ever did such a thing to us (while I don't believe we'll be annihilated, such is nonetheless logically possible).
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