Whoever said God 'sees' all events simultaneously?
CeT-To wrote:Is God timeless or temporal?
CeT-To, I'm still considering this, and some assumptions remain unclear to me. Timeless does not equal ‘without time’
. 'Outside of time' does not mean God doesn’t experience time/duration. It’s just God cannot be constrained by our
notions of time. For instance, can God become ravaged by the passage of time?
Before creation, duration existed. I just don’t see how God must necessarily be annexed to the universe upon creation. And since there was duration prior to creation, why and how would this necessarily follow?
Okay lets untie those knots of what you think are assumptions -
Timeless is without time by definition, without the experience of passage of time... i think though you have Eternal in mind, would that be right? Since you can be go from timeless to temporal and still be everlasting eternal.
I think you are seeing time as a merely physical dimension which it isn't, again the example of angels that they are not timeless, they are temporal because they take time to think yet they are with God outside the universe. So even outside the universe there is a passage of time, as a result of temporal creation even outside the universe. Even if God did annihilate the universe and all creation outside of it too God would still be in time as shown in the videos i posted and my comments earlier. Again with the word " constraint" is an emotionally loaded word, you can just say God liberated his activity with his creation. No, God would not be ravished by time lol becoming old and weary is a physical property in time, it is not a necessary property of time in itself, im pretty sure spirits like angels and God don't get old and get wrinkles hahahah, plus God is eternal. These questions and so called assumptions are all answers in the video i posted up lol all im doing is basically repeating it.
No, time began since creation and before that there was no time, hence God was timeless, if there was duration before creation then that means there was time and that God had been existing through an infinite amount of time.... which again leads to contradictions like - if there was an infinite amount of time prior to this moment then this moment should have never arrived because it is impossible to go through and "finish" an infinite amount of time or any actual infinites.
1 Kings 8:27
But will God really dwell on earth? The heavens, even the highest heaven, cannot contain you. How much less this temple I have built!
How can God know the future?
How can God not
know the future?
I never said he couldn't ... it was just a good vid on the subject, so i don't understand what this is supposed to mean lol it's like stating the obvious.
DannyM wrote:It hasn’t been demonstrated how God can maintain His infinite nature if He is, upon creation, annexed to the finite universe. Can an infinite form of subsistence be joined to a finite form of subsistence without scaling down the infinite to the finite?
Is God continuously learning new things?
Is he if he knows the future ?
Annexed? in what sense is God annexed to the universe? Where has it ever been stated that God is dependant on something? What has been shown though is the logical effect that if God creates something then since that created thing came to existence time began. Lol if you want to say God is annexed to something then the case here would be logic. Because that's what we are talking about here, logic.
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