Evidence for God from Science

thatkidakayoungguy wrote:http://www.genesispark.com/

That's simply amazing!

RickD wrote:

thatkidakayoungguy wrote:http://www.genesispark.com/

That's simply amazing!

I do like the idea that there could be dinosaurs in remote parts of the world. There's actually a good chance sea animals like mosasaurs still exist, I mean look at the reports of sea serpents, there are so many, and some match or are close to the descriptions of plesiosaurs, mosasaurs, etc. And we don't know but about 5 or so percent of the oceans, who knows they could've adapted to the flood (or to the K-T mass extinction, if one believes that anyhow) aftermath using punctuated equilibrium.
Then there is the case of Mokele Mnemnbe or however u spell it, the pygmies know their forest pretty well and they say there's a river creature that seems to be a rather small plesiosaur. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mokele-mbembe My question is how would it, if it's a dinosaur, survive so long and especially in a different climate like ours with less oxygen and colder climate (on average)? There is the possibility that is isn't a dinosaur and is more likely to be a rhino or elephant and the stories got mixed up over time due to folk memory.

thatkidakayoungguy wrote:

RickD wrote:

thatkidakayoungguy wrote:http://www.genesispark.com/

That's simply amazing!

I do like the idea that there could be dinosaurs in remote parts of the world. There's actually a good chance sea animals like mosasaurs still exist, I mean look at the reports of sea serpents, there are so many, and some match or are close to the descriptions of plesiosaurs, mosasaurs, etc. And we don't know but about 5 or so percent of the oceans, who knows they could've adapted to the flood (or to the K-T mass extinction, if one believes that anyhow) aftermath using punctuated equilibrium.
Then there is the case of Mokele Mnemnbe or however u spell it, the pygmies know their forest pretty well and they say there's a river creature that seems to be a rather small plesiosaur. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mokele-mbembe My question is how would it, if it's a dinosaur, survive so long and especially in a different climate like ours with less oxygen and colder climate (on average)? There is the possibility that is isn't a dinosaur and is more likely to be a rhino or elephant and the stories got mixed up over time due to folk memory.

This isn't possible because food chains have changed, the environment is changed, the level of oxygen is changed. This is good for a movie plot but creatures for this long time don't survive alone but in ecosystems supporting them and in population, small or large that doesn't matter but breeding populations nonetheless. When dinosaurs ruled the earth, it was warmer than it is today, more humid, the sun's radiation level was different, even the thickness of the ozone was different. The amount of food they consume was different compared to now.

Another thing which people making such claims don't take into account is that the bacteria that changed dinosaur poop into organic matter no longer survives. If such a massive creature is still out there, it would be easily spotted because there would be no way so much poop goes unnoticed. We should be thankful that even big creatures like elephant dung is eaten by a special type of beetle. Otherwise getting rid of poop is a massive problem for any living system, which people often take for granted. However in the absence of specialized bacteria, the poop will not turn into organicmatter, hence a big problem and a big bull's-eye for whatever creature is here since the last 365 mi years or even 10000 years.

This literature of the so-called park is just wrong.

neo-x wrote:

thatkidakayoungguy wrote:

RickD wrote:

thatkidakayoungguy wrote:http://www.genesispark.com/

That's simply amazing!

I do like the idea that there could be dinosaurs in remote parts of the world. There's actually a good chance sea animals like mosasaurs still exist, I mean look at the reports of sea serpents, there are so many, and some match or are close to the descriptions of plesiosaurs, mosasaurs, etc. And we don't know but about 5 or so percent of the oceans, who knows they could've adapted to the flood (or to the K-T mass extinction, if one believes that anyhow) aftermath using punctuated equilibrium.
Then there is the case of Mokele Mnemnbe or however u spell it, the pygmies know their forest pretty well and they say there's a river creature that seems to be a rather small plesiosaur. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mokele-mbembe My question is how would it, if it's a dinosaur, survive so long and especially in a different climate like ours with less oxygen and colder climate (on average)? There is the possibility that is isn't a dinosaur and is more likely to be a rhino or elephant and the stories got mixed up over time due to folk memory.

This isn't possible because food chains have changed, the environment is changed, the level of oxygen is changed. This is good for a movie plot but creatures for this long time don't survive alone but in ecosystems supporting them and in population, small or large that doesn't matter but breeding populations nonetheless. When dinosaurs ruled the earth, it was warmer than it is today, more humid, the sun's radiation level was different, even the thickness of the ozone was different. The amount of food they consume was different compared to now.

Another thing which people making such claims don't take into account is that the bacteria that changed dinosaur poop into organic matter no longer survives. If such a massive creature is still out there, it would be easily spotted because there would be no way so much poop goes unnoticed. We should be thankful that even big creatures like elephant dung is eaten by a special type of beetle. Otherwise getting rid of poop is a massive problem for any living system, which people often take for granted. However in the absence of specialized bacteria, the poop will not turn into organicmatter, hence a big problem and a big bull's-eye for whatever creature is here since the last 365 mi years or even 10000 years.

This literature of the so-called park is just wrong.

Ik there's less oxygen but over millions of years I thought they just would shrink and change diet (somewhat anyhow) to adapt. I didn't know about the gut bacteria being different though.Remember that site is from a YEC view, and they state earth is no more than 6-10000 years old, which even farming and buildings, presumed to be destroyed by the flood, r still around dating from 23000 years down. So if i was a YEC, I'd have to put the age of the world to at least 23K years, fyi.

"Primitive" species like crocs/alligators, sturgeon, Komodo Dragon are about as close as humans got to living with dinosaurs.

birds too