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Noah's ark

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Post by theophilus » Wed Jun 12, 2013 8:02 am

Here is a detailed study of Noah's ark:

http://www.worldwideflood.com/default.htm
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Post by Danieltwotwenty » Wed Jun 12, 2013 3:16 pm

1Tim1:15-17
Here is a trustworthy saying that deserves full acceptance: Christ Jesus came into the world to save sinners of whom I am the worst. But for that very reason I was shown mercy so that in me, the worst of sinners, Christ Jesus might display his immense patience as an example for those who would believe in him and receive eternal life. Now to the King eternal, immortal, invisible, the only God, be honor and glory for ever and ever.Amen.

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Post by RickD » Wed Jun 12, 2013 5:06 pm

:popcorn:
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Post by Danieltwotwenty » Wed Jun 12, 2013 7:00 pm

RickD wrote::popcorn:
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1Tim1:15-17
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God wants full custody of his children, not just visits on Sunday.

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Post by Danieltwotwenty » Wed Sep 11, 2013 4:13 pm


Theo no one here says that God couldn't have done it that way, we say that the Bible doesn't say it was a global flood global.
1Tim1:15-17
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Post by pat34lee » Sat Oct 05, 2013 11:19 pm

Danieltwotwenty wrote:
Theo no one here says that God couldn't have done it that way, we say that the Bible doesn't say it was a global flood global.
No, but it would be strange if a local flood killed off all the people and air breathing animals on earth.

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Post by RickD » Sun Oct 06, 2013 4:59 am

pat34lee wrote:
Danieltwotwenty wrote:
Theo no one here says that God couldn't have done it that way, we say that the Bible doesn't say it was a global flood global.
No, but it would be strange if a local flood killed off all the people and air breathing animals on earth.
The Genesis Flood-Why the Bible Says it Must Be Local
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Post by Danieltwotwenty » Sun Oct 06, 2013 2:11 pm

pat34lee wrote:
Danieltwotwenty wrote:
Theo no one here says that God couldn't have done it that way, we say that the Bible doesn't say it was a global flood global.
No, but it would be strange if a local flood killed off all the people and air breathing animals on earth.
You didn't read the link did you. y#-o
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Post by WannaLearn » Mon Oct 07, 2013 6:27 am

Danieltwotwenty wrote:
RickD wrote::popcorn:
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Post by RickD » Mon Oct 07, 2013 7:34 am

I understand the mentality of YECs, because I was one. They get it drilled in their head continuously that anything except YEC is wrong, anti bible, anti God, pro evolution, etc. It's not until I started to study on my own, that I started to see that there's another interpretation of scripture that makes sense.
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Re: Noah's ark

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Post by Starhunter » Sat Jun 28, 2014 8:52 pm

RickD wrote:...there's another interpretation of scripture that makes sense.
Speaking of making sense,

Lets just say that when God says "earth" He means "not earth" but in fact local shops and street corners. Something conceivable...like a big valley full of water, or lake bursting, whatever.

So Noah takes 120 years to build an enormous ark, weighing hundreds of tonnes, and animals from distant lands migrate to get there, and so forth.

Why not just walk out with his family of eight - and a few camels, and in less than one year Noah would be hundreds of miles away from any dangers of a local flood. No need to preserve one pair of each animal, or supplies and seeds for one year, etc.

Rick -D... what were you thinking?

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Post by pat34lee » Mon Jun 30, 2014 7:44 pm

RickD wrote:I understand the mentality of YECs, because I was one. They get it drilled in their head continuously that anything except YEC is wrong, anti bible, anti God, pro evolution, etc. It's not until I started to study on my own, that I started to see that there's another interpretation of scripture that makes sense.
Yet you blindly believe what evolutionists teach about the past. What makes you think they know more than God? Remember that, unlike all others who wrote books of the bible, Moses talked to God "face to face." Therefore, Genesis is not a series of folk tales, but the autobiography of God ghost-written by Moses.

Scientists who study the past are a shrewd lot. They'll BS you if they can. The facts are everywhere, but they don't carry labels, and they aren't 'FOR' one side or the other. The problem with the old earth is that many facts are ignored or discarded because they don't fit the agenda. From DNA to geology to how the universe works; all eventually point to YEC.

For those who deny the ark is in either location in Turkey, how about the anchor stones?
http://www.arkdiscovery.com/noahsarkstones.htm

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Post by neo-x » Tue Jul 01, 2014 2:59 am

Deficit of trust in scientific evidence is the problem here. I don't think anyone can convince you when you are defending your position with "No man knows more than God." I mean that is impossible to argue with.

When I was a YEC, I reacted the same, as you guys. And my family who are all YEC, still does the same. I only realized it was false because I started reading the evidence of old earth, and thankfully not from YEC sources. However we are all one in christ and this will ultimately not matter much.

However I would encourage you to read the evidence for yourselves. I think it will at the very least give you more info as to why I am not convinced of YEC anymore.
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Re: Noah's ark

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Post by Starhunter » Tue Jul 01, 2014 3:25 am

The "anchor stones"...

Who put those crosses on them? Christian admirers? Pagans?

I don't think Noah's family did. They are Pagan symbols regardless of who put them there.

Why are the stones scattered over an area? Did the ropes fail?

Nothing of the ark failed until it rested.

The hole in the top of the stones was not drilled by conventional methods. One narrow end of the hole is the result of the method used to 'cut,' it is not deliberate.

There'll be other stones in this area where the hole is blown open with no 'handle' and there will be similar stones all out of shape with seething marks on one side. And still other stones will have a number the same sized holes, some only creating a dent, and not piercing through.

The sign that is supposed to be the tower of Babel is not that. Might say what another time.

However, these stones are Chaldean, whose users traveled all over the old world, using these stones in another state of matter to perform what they needed.

Similar stones are found in South America, China and Celtic lands, just to mention a couple. A lot of anchors!

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