Mallz wrote:I do have one question that's been on my mind. And correct me if I'm wrong...
The implications of your account show that in Sheol, demons have rule over fallen humankind. The natural end to those who follow satan; is it to be ruled by him and his legions in such a fashion? Would that imply God's justice is being perpetrated by demons? This is confusing to me.
Does this mean to choose to not be with God, is choosing to be with satan and his minions? Why would they be in position of power over fallen humans when they, themselves, are not only fallen, but worse off that any fallen human from falling from perfection? Shouldn't their existence in Sheol be of repercussions from rejecting God instead of power?
What does the bible say about these things? That is what we all should stick with. I’ll answer from my experience but this experience shapes my opinion. Therefore, I’ll give you my opinion on this matter as it pertains to the bible as best as I can and pray that it helps answers your questions.
First, the scriptures reveal what in 1 John 5:19, 2 Co 4:4, and Eph 2:2 ?
Next in regards to sheol – Jesus stated this about it in Matthew 25:41 that it was prepared for the devil and his minions. Isa 24:22 sets forth a principle that the current hell is liken to a prison. The word translated prison in the text from the Hebrew denotes a place of incarceration and detainment, a holding center, but not the final abode of the d-mned. It was expressed by Jesus in Matthew 25:41 – a place made to hold the devil and his minions.
People who don’t know the Lord are not his children and are called in the bible – children of the devil, see 1 John 3:10. Jesus told the Pharisees of his time on earth that their father was the devil in John 8:44. So the principle holds true Paul speaks of in Eph 2:3 and Romans 5: 8,10c. We are all enemies of God before becoming saved and thus this prison was for us too, but Jesus saved us from this demise – of living death.
So demons have rule over the unsaved and natural world of humanity. Jesus came and broke that power and gave his people power to resist the devil and he will flee. For us, we find a new found liberty in becoming Christ like in conduct and character.
Now to try to explain what demons do in hell and if they rule there over people. Job 41:34 expressed a principle about the devil that he is ruler over all the children of pride; therefore, what does that say to you of their role in the current prison of hell?
Next, demons are not meting out God’s justice as you describe - its a bit different than that. Let's look: Sheol – hell is a place of God’s wrath/anger Deut 32:22. It is his anger / wrath that exposes what all the d-mned are truly like. Job 26:5 NKJV and Job 26:6 NKJV bring this principle out. The demons inside sheol, don’t like it there as recorded in Matt 8:29 – a place of torment for them too. Hard to explain in five easy words or less. God’s wrath exposes them for whom and what they are really like just as it does with human spirits (hell is naked before God and ruin has no covering note the Job 26 ref). The difference is that, it is the demonic nature to cause misery and death.
These beings are described as the rulers of the atmosphere around earth and thus, there in hell, are like, no other way to say it, like guards living true to their own character and nature because the wrath of God exposes/proving what is truly within a being, exposing their real true self, thus, readying the whole lot for the future lake of fire, Rev 20:14-15.
In the lake of fire, they will not rule, nor shall anyone in it, the full fury of God’s just wrath is made manifest, then, on a despicable lot whose true nature and character has been fully revealed in the holding center. The sense of God’s justice is proving beyond all reasonable doubt how unredeemable all in sheol and in the future lake of fire really are. God’s justice leaves no stone unturned – it is truly fearful to fall into the hands of the living God as an unsaved person and face this about oneself. See what and who you really are with all the pretenses and excuses.
In that sense, God’s justice is carried out by the very nature of his just wrath and not by anything ease as his wrath reveals the real person. Demons are not perpetrating God’s justice in hell. You could say that they retain their authority over the children of pride and uncover others true nature in degrees of payback as God's wrath reveals their nature/character too. Recall, demonic beings hate it there and suffer torment there as well too and that drives them, well, mad and they lash out on those they help capture. That is why the demons in the demoniac begged Jesus not to torment them before their appointed time, for that, they did not want to return to sheol.
Don’t get me wrong, Paul mentions that he turned someone over to the devil for the destruction of their fleshly sin – yes – demons can carry out functions of God’s justice but are not the means of that justice. The means of just recompense exposes what is in the heart proving unredeemableness to those in hell. Hope this makes sense. No other way to simply explain it.
Mallz you asked: Does this mean to choose to not be with God, is choosing to be with satan and his minions?
Yes, but most folks don’t think there even is a satan and think they’re goodness outweighs their badness never realizing that since they do both, in reality, shows they can’t ever not stop doing bad. People choose from the choice God confronts them with. Pride often gets in the way of making an intelligent choice. (reap what you sow)
Mallzm you asked: Why would they be in position of power over fallen humans when they, themselves, are not only fallen, but worse off that any fallen human from falling from perfection? Shouldn't their existence in Sheol be of repercussions from rejecting God instead of power?
I hope I explained some of this to you already. There is more. You see God gives promises, gifts, and callings. He does not take these back as that would show he can’t keep his word and disproves his own justice. The fallen angelic beings before they fell were given certain promises, gifts, and callings. Bible calls them rulers of the air Eph 6:10-19, Ezekiel 28:12-19. They rebelled, and like we humans when Adam rebelled, God did not take away what he promised humanity in Gen 1:26-28 did he? Who was responsible for changing sides and using dominion as their own gods? So they, like us, have the authority God gave them and they abuse it in the fallen state. The promise is still there - dominion we do exercise - in a fallen way, albeit.
As for the last part – demons do suffer repercussion – what does Rev 20:14-15, Rev 21:8, 27, Rev 22:15 reveal to you?