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Post by B. W. » Thu Jan 18, 2018 12:07 pm

Blessed wrote:Bryan equates Aliens with Demons. But the universe is too big for E.T.'s not to exist. It's impossible Earth is the only planet with intelligent life. One Hubble space telescope episode proves this.
The laws of Physics prevent space travel due to the following reasons:

Amount of Energy needed to just go 1/4 speed of light is beyond the belief just to get from nearest star system to ours and then at least quadruple it for a round trip - look up the energy need for this for a ship traveling the speed of light and see for yourself. The small ships seen as UFO's would have t defy the laws of Physics concerning the emery requires to travel.

Of course folks will say, this is new alien propulsion methods but even that defies the laws of Physics concerning hitting a dust sized particale at that speed would blow parts of the ship apart. A pea size debris hitting a ship would, well, create an explosion the size of a large Nuclear detonation. Even with force fields etc you would require more energy to maintain those for years and years of multiplied years to travel.

The laws of physic which we measure hold the entire universe together elsewhere too. The stuff of science fiction about space travel warp drives, worm hole travel, etc all defy the laws of physics.

Is there life out there somewhere else in the universe? Yes, it is possible God created life elsewhere but to travel from star to star is simply impossible.

Now, spiritual beings who live in a different plane than we do - is a different matter. Fallen angels are not demons and demon are not fallen angels according to the ancient Jewish traditions and writings on this matter. Demons according to these sources came from the Nephlim and mixed human/animal species made by the Watcher - fallen angels to reflect their character and nature. These hybrid species became demons after being wiped out due to the flood. Some roam the earth according to the Jewish traditions and writings on this matter.

One fallen angel named Azazel was sentenced forever to reside in the abyss of the deepest hell. Two hundred others who are identified as captains of the host of these fallen angels were sentenced to reside in hell for around 70 generations and then released for a bit for the final showdown between Satan and his minions just as the bible speaks about and gives reasons for.

In the meantime, those fallen angels not sentenced are still around which Paul mentions in Eph 6:12 and they influence humanity. Both demons and the fallen angels are considered demonic in their respective natures bit are not the same.

As Jesus said in Luke 17:26, "Just as it was in the days of Noah, so also will it be in the days of the Son of Man."

2 Peter 2:2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9 also helps shed light on this subject and notice the wording.

2 Peter 2:4 For if God did not spare angels when they sinned, but sent them to hell, putting them in chains of darkness to be held for judgment;
Quoted from from book of First Enoch at this link

1 Enoch 12:5,7 Then the Lord said to me: Enoch, scribe of righteousness, go tell the Watchers of heaven, who have deserted the lofty sky, and their holy everlasting station, who have been polluted with women.6And have done as the sons of men do, by taking to themselves wives, and who have been greatly corrupted on the earth... 7 That on the earth they shall never obtain peace and remission of sin. For they shall not rejoice in their offspring; they shall behold the slaughter of their beloved; shall lament for the destruction of their sons; and shall petition forever; but shall not obtain mercy and peace.

CHAPTER 14:1,3,4,5

1. The book of the words of righteousness, and of the reprimand of the eternal Watchers in accordance with the command of the Holy Great One in that vision...

...3 the power of understanding the word of wisdom, so hath He created me also and given me the power of reprimanding the Watchers, the children of heaven. 4. I wrote out your petition, and in my vision it appeared thus, that your petition will not be granted unto you throughout all the days of eternity, and that judgement has been finally passed upon you: yea (your petition) will not be granted unto you.

...5 And from henceforth you shall not ascend into heaven unto all eternity, and ⌈in bonds⌉ of the earth the decree has gone forth to bind you for all the days of the world. 6. And (that) previously you shall have seen the destruction of your beloved sons and ye shall have no pleasure in them, but they shall fall before you by the sword.

Chapter 15:2-11

2. And go, say to the Watchers of heaven, who have sent thee to intercede for them: "You should intercede" for men, and not men for you: 3. Wherefore have ye left the high, holy, and eternal heaven, and lain with women, and defiled yourselves with the daughters of men and taken to yourselves wives, and done like the children of earth, and begotten giants (as your) sons? 4. And though ye were holy, spiritual, living the eternal life, you have defiled yourselves with the blood of women, and have begotten (children) with the blood of flesh, and, as the children of men, have lusted after flesh and blood as those ⌈also⌉ do who die and perish...

...6. But you formerly spiritual (Better translation reads -- but you from the beginning were made spiritual), living the eternal life, and immortal for all generations of the world. 7. And therefore I have not appointed wives for you; for as for the spiritual ones of the heaven, in heaven is their dwelling.

..8 And now, the giants, who are produced from the spirits and flesh, shall be called evil spirits upon the earth, and on the earth shall be their dwelling. 9. Evil spirits have proceeded from their bodies; because they are born from men, and from the holy Watchers is their beginning and primal origin; they shall be evil spirits on earth, and evil spirits shall they be called. 10. As for the spirits of heaven, in heaven shall be their dwelling, but as for the spirits of the earth which were born upon the earth, on the earth shall be their dwelling.

...11 And the spirits of the giants afflict, oppress, destroy, attack, do battle, and work destruction on the earth, and cause trouble: they take no food, but nevertheless hunger and thirst, and cause offences. And these spirits shall rise up against the children of men and against the women, because they have proceeded from them...

CHAPTER 20:1-4

1 From the days of the slaughter and destruction and death of the giants, from the souls of whose flesh the spirits, having gone forth, shall destroy without incurring judgement--thus shall they destroy until the day of the consummation, the great judgement in which the age shall be consummated, over the Watchers and the godless, yea, shall be wholly consummated."

2 And now as to the Watchers who have sent thee to intercede for them, who had been aforetime in heaven, say to them: "You have been in heaven, but ⌈all⌉ the mysteries had not yet been revealed to you, and you knew worthless ones, and these in the hardness of your hearts you have made known to the women, and through these mysteries women and men work much evil on earth." 4. Say to them therefore: "You have no peace."'
In Enoch we see a narrative that the fallen angels inhabit the atmosphere around the earth, some reside in the current hell, and the nephlim spirits roam the earth and he too.

These are not space aliens here to enlighten humanity to greater good but rather as in the days of Noah, they are inspring humanity to mix and splice DNA, develop AI and transhumanism. This is not a joke. Our scientific journals write and record the latest discoveries of DNA CRISPER and splicing and developed of robotics and AI.

So when Jesus says - as it was in the days of Noah - these are some of the indicators to look for. Daniel mentions in Daniel chapter 12 that knowledge will increase...

When we pass off this sort of thing in churches as myth - don't worry about it - sethite or human Leader just take it by faith - nothing to see move on - we do a great disservice for the body of Christ.

What would happen if the Fallen Angels appeared as ET's ? Or new Hybrid Humans developed? Or the AI becomes more frightening than it is now as it writes its own programming?

What are you going to tell new believers about this? How will they be able to stand against the seduction and deception of the end times.

My wife mentions how women feel a bit crampy, felling not quite right, just before labor pains begin. I think we are in the crampy phase...
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Re: Hells Dominion by B.W. Melvin

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Post by B. W. » Thu Jan 18, 2018 12:14 pm

claysmithr wrote:Blessed, while this world has been cursed by God and demon powers... it's still not Hell.

God will make things right for them. They will be re-united with their dead children in Heaven, and be greatly rewarded for keeping their faith through difficult trials.

Evil is a problem, and God's plan is to send evil to Hell for eternity!
Blessed, to add to the Clay's post above, Jesus warned us that in this life their will be troubles...

A man who has stage 4 cancer mentioned that he could not imagine going through what he is going through right now without Jesus...

He is undergoing treatment and all the emotions and inner conflicts. Think about that for a bit... and then read 2 Co 1:3,4
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Post by Storyteller » Thu Jan 18, 2018 3:06 pm

Blessed...

I have survived rape, lost four babies, survived domestic violence, got through seven years of severe clinical depression. i have felt worthless, unloved, neglected.
I have questioned why God put me through this, then i realised it was Him that got me through it.

We were the ones that turned our backs, walked away.

He waits, patiently, ready to welcome us back.

God doesnt make us suffer, we make ourselves suffer.
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Post by Philip » Thu Jan 18, 2018 8:18 pm

Truth is, we don't and can't know if God created other lifeforms in this vast universe. If, as I suspect, supposed alien sightings and abductions are undoubtedly demonic, with the rest of it a bunch of bunk (per the physics stuff, like B.W. references). But God MIGHT have put other lifeforms so far away from us that either we'll never encounter them, or they are not beings like us - are more like slugs and worms or such. The idea that alien life would be much like us comes from many who are convinced of evolution or its sometimes asserted "inevitability" of it likely having happened all over the universe. Also, we now have millions of people who have been influenced by 100 years or so of science fiction writing, books, and now movies, etc.

But God might have put other life forms where there is no need for us to know about them, from a Scriptural point. He may have created other physical life forms that no longer exist. Same with whatever worlds, dimensions or other realities - as God is a always-creative Being, and eternal, we have no idea what he's created before, that may or may not still exist. THIS time may have been preceded by many others, or other realities. It's also quite possible that we are the only living beings like ourselves in the entire universe. We have no idea. Scripture undoubtedly leaves many mysteries, while including many things per a "need to know'" basis - and what we DON'T necessarily need to know, God hasn't revealed it. Just like the questions we all have about the beginning of life and mankind - we don't have a lot of questions answered - not now, anyway.
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Re: Hells Dominion by B.W. Melvin

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Post by Blessed » Thu Jan 18, 2018 10:14 pm

Storyteller wrote:Blessed...

I have survived rape, lost four babies, survived domestic violence, got through seven years of severe clinical depression. i have felt worthless, unloved, neglected.
I have questioned why God put me through this, then i realised it was Him that got me through it.

We were the ones that turned our backs, walked away.

He waits, patiently, ready to welcome us back.

God doesnt make us suffer, we make ourselves suffer.
Why did you experience these things and how were you able to summon the strength required not turn to evil by blaming God in rebellion, then constantly justifying yourself for it.

I've constantly quarreled and "brought suit" in my head with God. I've not experienced 1/10000th of what you just described. How are you able to avoid this? Just by praying and trusting in God no matter what happens and accepting there is some unknown reason for this?
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Post by neo-x » Fri Jan 19, 2018 5:40 am

Blessed wrote:
Storyteller wrote:Blessed...

I have survived rape, lost four babies, survived domestic violence, got through seven years of severe clinical depression. i have felt worthless, unloved, neglected.
I have questioned why God put me through this, then i realised it was Him that got me through it.

We were the ones that turned our backs, walked away.

He waits, patiently, ready to welcome us back.

God doesnt make us suffer, we make ourselves suffer.
Why did you experience these things and how were you able to summon the strength required not turn to evil by blaming God in rebellion, then constantly justifying yourself for it.

I've constantly quarreled and "brought suit" in my head with God. I've not experienced 1/10000th of what you just described. How are you able to avoid this? Just by praying and trusting in God no matter what happens and accepting there is some unknown reason for this?
ST will obviously reply but I wanted to say that to think that whatever has happened to you is simply how God willed it, is wrong. God doesn't let us suffer because he wants to test us or tempt us with sin. This is how the world behaves because you build things, things can fall down on you, take churches that fell down on the worshippers or cars that result in an accident. There are certain ground realities with which everything is governed and add to it the prospect of free will and you have endless possibilities of what can happen.

God is love and he is righteousness, that means there is no evil in him, whatsoever. He can't be. We can pray to God and ask him to guide us and be with us but I don't believe that we should expect something that is simply not realistic. For instance that no harm can ever come to us or nothing bad will ever happen to us. The rules of this world simply don't allow such scenarios.

I have bought such suites in my head as well and when I was a bit younger I used to quarrel with God about all the wrongs I had seen in my life. But I realised, quite late actually, that I am looking at it the wrong way. God is not someone who'd have me molested purposely and then also demand that I remain peaceful and thankful to him because I have to. To cry out is human nature, and as Lewis once put it, "God loves our questions and reasons, and holds our hands while we do it".

It liberated me because I was able to see God as he is, that is Love. And to be with him and trust him is the only thing that will ever bring you lasting peace. To know that this world is broken and there are bound to be some wounds here and there and one day God will fix it - That Christ died to fix it, is relieving in contrast to the constant doubt of a ever-controlling God who causes and reacts to everything that happened to you and leaves you wondering why something happened to you while God was "with you".

To love God in a world full of pain and suffering is difficult, but it's easier for those to understand who love him.
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Post by Storyteller » Fri Jan 19, 2018 4:17 pm

Blessed wrote:
Storyteller wrote:Blessed...

I have survived rape, lost four babies, survived domestic violence, got through seven years of severe clinical depression. i have felt worthless, unloved, neglected.
I have questioned why God put me through this, then i realised it was Him that got me through it.

We were the ones that turned our backs, walked away.

He waits, patiently, ready to welcome us back.

God doesnt make us suffer, we make ourselves suffer.
Why did you experience these things and how were you able to summon the strength required not turn to evil by blaming God in rebellion, then constantly justifying yourself for it.

I've constantly quarreled and "brought suit" in my head with God. I've not experienced 1/10000th of what you just described. How are you able to avoid this? Just by praying and trusting in God no matter what happens and accepting there is some unknown reason for this?
Everything I have experienced has shaped who I am today. There is nothing I would change about my life, or what I have experienced. Why have I experienced them? Because I am alive.
I didnt, and dont, need strength not to turn to evil because I am grateful that I was created to experience life. Life is a precious gift. Sure, there are times when i question, times when I get angry, wail at the injustice of it all but those moments are breif because I am here, alive.

I have complete faith in God. i trust Him. He doesnt promise there will be no pain, or challenges, or heartbreak (not in this life anyway) but He does promise to stay with me.

Yes, I pray, and trust in God.

He has never left me, not once.

There is nothing that I could experience that He hasn't. He knows sorrow, pain and greif, of such magnitude I can't comprehend yet still offers hope, grace and love.
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Post by claysmithr » Fri Apr 13, 2018 12:16 pm

Just wanted to say Thanks for the Kindle Version! :) I requested it a while ago but I can't be the ONLY one who wanted it :)

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