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Post by jlay » Wed Jul 22, 2015 6:12 am

Review and revise the board rules for starting posts and participating in the discussion forum.
This has happened on the forum several times in the past. You get a new participant and they, for whatever reason, feel compelled to start a thread on every subject that crosses their mind. Nohting personal, but I don't care what color socks your where or what's your favorite Keanu Reeves movie.

This is first and foremost and apologetics forum. I've spent less and less time here because quite frankly I can get better and more meaningful content and discussion on forums that are either better moderated, or open only to Christians who are working to seriously develop their apologetic acumen.

A big culprit you see is people just sharing links and asking, "what do you think?" There is no development of an idea or how it relates to apologetics.

I don't say this to be mean, but seriously guys, it's a mess. When i come here I'll use the 'active topics' search to see what is being currently discussed. Right now the board is being swamped under by David Stones. Now, maybe he's a good guy, I don't know. But his postings are muddying up the forum to the point where it is hard to find any meaningful content and discussion.
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Re: Suggestion

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Post by neo-x » Wed Jul 22, 2015 6:37 am

Fyi, Nessa is a she.
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Re: Suggestion

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Post by RickD » Wed Jul 22, 2015 6:39 am

jlay wrote:Review and revise the board rules for starting posts and participating in the discussion forum.
This has happened on the forum several times in the past. You get a new participant and they, for whatever reason, feel compelled to start a thread on every subject that crosses their mind. Nohting personal, but I don't care what color socks your where or what's your favorite Keanu Reeves movie.

This is first and foremost and apologetics forum. I've spent less and less time here because quite frankly I can get better and more meaningful content and discussion on forums that are either better moderated, or open only to Christians who are working to seriously develop their apologetic acumen.

A big culprit you see is people just sharing links and asking, "what do you think?" There is no development of an idea or how it relates to apologetics.

I don't say this to be mean, but seriously guys, it's a mess. When i come here I'll use the 'active topics' search to see what is being currently discussed. Right now the board is being swamped under by David Stones. Now, maybe he's a good guy, I don't know. But his postings are muddying up the forum to the point where it is hard to find any meaningful content and discussion.
Ouch!

That was harsh jlay!
The forum where Nessa(HER name is Nessa) has been posting, is in general chit chat. And general chit chat is for "Introductions and friendly discussions about anything in general".
So, there's nothing against the board rules about posting general chit chat topics.

Not only did you take a dig at Nessa, but you also took a dig at the moderators of the forum:
This is first and foremost and apologetics forum. I've spent less and less time here because quite frankly I can get better and more meaningful content and discussion on forums that are either better moderated, or open only to Christians who are working to seriously develop their apologetic acumen.
Maybe you need to step away from this forum if that's how you feel. I know I've been told by more than a few members in the past, that this forum is no longer a safe place for believers to post.
And this post of yours confirms that.

I'm still shocked that you actually posted this jlay.
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Re: Suggestion

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Post by Storyteller » Wed Jul 22, 2015 6:42 am

And to be fair, the threads are in the appropriate forums.

And, there is actually some pretty interesting stuff on some of those threads.

I think it`s a good way of getting to know posters.
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Re: Suggestion

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Post by jlay » Wed Jul 22, 2015 7:48 am

That's why I said review and revise. Sorry for voicing my opinion. Seems I'm the only one not welcome to do such.
Maybe you are right Rick. Later.
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Re: Suggestion

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Post by PaulSacramento » Wed Jul 22, 2015 8:00 am

There isn't anything wrong with general chit-chat Jlay, with "fluff".
Sometimes it is good to allow people to "decompress" with silliness.
Personally I don't have a problem with and as a moderator I would only have a problem with it if memberS complained about it.
Typically it is "cross-thread" "contamination" that we worry about in cases like this.

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Re: Suggestion

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Post by RickD » Wed Jul 22, 2015 8:17 am

jlay wrote:That's why I said review and revise. Sorry for voicing my opinion. Seems I'm the only one not welcome to do such.
Maybe you are right Rick. Later.
Of course you're welcome to voice your opinion.

But I'm also going to point out where in my opinion, you are wrong.

The posts are in General chit chat. They haven't been an issue in Apologetical forums. At least as far as I can see.

So, threads are in the proper forum.

And then you had to take a dig at the moderating here. That's just inappropriate. You should know that the moderators here all care about doing the best we can. Especially when there's so many differing beliefs. And if you have an issue with any of us, you should bring it to us by pm.

You've been here long enough to know it's not appropriate to take pot shots at the moderators, publicly.

And yes. If you can't refrain from publicly calling out how moderators are moderating here, maybe you need to step away for a while. I said the same thing to Danieltwotwenty when he thought it was appropriate to call out how moderators moderate.
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Re: Suggestion

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Post by Nessa » Wed Jul 22, 2015 12:26 pm

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Re: Suggestion

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Post by Nessa » Wed Jul 22, 2015 12:59 pm

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Re: Suggestion

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Post by 1over137 » Wed Jul 22, 2015 1:00 pm

No, they do not.
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Re: Suggestion

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Post by Nessa » Wed Jul 22, 2015 1:05 pm

1over137 wrote:No, they do not.
it was an obvious joke and i hid most of the word myself.

so you come on this thread just to tell me off...love it! :pound:
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Re: Suggestion

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Post by 1over137 » Wed Jul 22, 2015 1:06 pm

To come back to what jlay probably had on mind...

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Re: Suggestion

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Post by Philip » Wed Jul 22, 2015 1:06 pm

OK, everyone - let's just take a few deep breaths, switch to decaf - whatever it takes. This forum is more than a mere apologetics forum - at its best, it's also a COMMUNITY of people at different spiritual stages. A lot of the "fluff" and humorous back and forth lightens things up, shows we're not just humorless robots that only debate spiritual topics. Jlay, when you turn on TV, is all you watch is hard news or political forums? Do you not also like to see a funny comedy, a documentary, nature stuff? Jlay, you have been a very important contributor to this forum, but I think you need to lighten up just a bit. And if you had a problem with someone or an issue with the forum, you could have private mailed one of us mods to discuss or criticize. And what WERE you thinking when you very clumsily attacked someone new to the forum that you don't even know - HUGE spiritual influence you'll have with her and others when they read nasty posts like that one. The forum doesn't have to be an EITHER / OR - only serious apologetics are a diversity of topic types and tone - from dead serious to whimsical. Those who don't like our sometimes silly banter don't have to participate in it. It's not as if there aren't a TON of very serious threads that many here are extremely serious about and eager to engage in.

Jlay, I'd say you should put your pride aside and apologize to Nessa - it's the right thing to do. And Nessa, I'm sorry you had to experience this. Not the most mature response to Jlay, but I can understand that you were likely very offended.

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Re: Suggestion

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Post by Nessa » Wed Jul 22, 2015 1:15 pm

Can you see the double standard? You are hung up on one offensive word yet theres a whole post that is allowed to stay FULL of offense. Wheres the editing on that one?

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Post by 1over137 » Wed Jul 22, 2015 1:23 pm

Pm sent
But examine everything carefully; hold fast to that which is good.
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