RickD wrote:Then you should have the right to take that chance with your children and yourself, if you think the reward is greater than the risk.Danieltwotwenty wrote:If causation can be shown then yea, but it hasn't been shown yet.Jac3510 wrote:See, and that's where "correlation doesn't equal causation" seems like a stretch at best and possibly tragically harmful at worst.
The saying is "correlation doesn't always mean causation", so it is saying you need to prove causation rather than just assuming it.
But, those people who actually think the risk outweighs the reward, and the consequences of the vaccine could cause death or greater harm than not getting the vaccine, should not be forced to get the vaccine. And should not be ridiculed because they are trying to protect themselves and their children from serious injury or death.
EDITDan, did you notice what you wrote? If people who aren't vaccinated are not allowed to enter school, not allowed in a doctor's office, to protect everyone else, why? EVERYONE ELSE BESIDES THE UNVACCINATED HAVE BEEN VACCINATED!!! WHY WOULD THE VACCINATED NEED PROTECTION IF VACCINES WORK LIKE THEY ARE SUPPOSED TO?Dan wrote:
Vaccination is not mandatory in Australia, but you cannot attend a public school, receive certain benefits and in some cases doctors may refuse service and direct you too a hospital if you have not been vaccinated, these are not to penalise the people not getting vaccinated but to protect everyone else.
It seems much more likely that there's another reason why unvaccinated people are discriminated against, doesn't it?
Rick think about what you are saying, diseases that we vaccinate against don't always get vaccinated for until we are older, young children and especially newborn babies are still vulnerable. Mothers who take their new born babies to public school with them when they drop off their older children are at risk, mothers who take their babies to the doctors are at risk, immune compromised people, people who have had transplants, people with cancer, old people in general, people who had the vaccine but for some reason it didn't take. All these people's lives are at risk for you not vaccinating your children, so yes your children should be kept as far away as possible.
Education and health care are a privilege and not a right, if you abuse it you loose it, simple as that.