Thank you all for your responses so far, they have indeed been enlightening, there are however a couple of points I would like to discuss further, Neo has already asked the exact question I was mulling over inside my mind today while building my new outdoor staircase (Feeling a bit like Jesus today, doing carpentry in the heat of Summer is damn hard work, I am old school, so a lot of chisel and hammer work).
I can agree with pretty much everything you said Melanie, the internet is definitely a wall that creates all sorts of friction between opposing parties but there was one thing in particular that I wanted to zone in on, if you don't mind answering of course.
Also I think sometimes like in Abelcainsbrother case, he genuinely, honestly feels he is right.
On the back of the above quote, do you think all your beliefs are absolutely correct and do you think when you meet our creator face to face that everything you know now will be 100% correct? Don't get me wrong, I am not saying absolute truth cannot be known, I am just saying that anything I hold dear (like evolution for example) always has an element of doubt attached to it. I never feel I am right, I always feel there is doubt to my claims and I find it quite disconcerting when someone like ACB claims absolute truth. How can anyone honestly feel they are right, I never feel I am right, I just feel I am doing the best I can with what God graced me with.
Sorry if that is a bunch of questions, but I an genuinely interested in how you can claim to be right without doubt?
If proving my position and relying solely on my intellect to do so in any way jeopardises my integrity by becoming narky, too heated, disrespectful, sarcastic ect, then regardless of whether I'm right or wrong I've lost anyway.
But this is what I see happening time and again on many different threads on this forum, I may have been absent for awhile but from a quick scan I see not much has changed (we are humans after all). The problem I see with posts like ACB (Sorry to keep picking ACB but you used him as the example and for berevity I will just continue on with the same example, I hate to use people as an example like this, so I do apologise to ACB). I have read through some of the evolution threads have have found that ACB has said some pretty disrespectful things about people who believe that God used evolution as his method of bringing about life on this planet, he claims they have been deceived by Satan, they believe the words of men before God, they twist the Bible to suit their own adgendas etc.. etc...
I think it is from that I have absolute truth attitude that these disrespectful comments come from, because there is no room for not being right they must believe these things as a consequence of that. Now you can say he is a nice guy and all that and I am sure he is, but I really think his way of thinking he is absolutely right is dangerous and destructive, not only to himself but to the people who may engage with him. You can see this is destructive because as time goes by less and less people will want to converse with him, it has happened many times before and for the people that do take the bait it will breed anger and hatred. Now don't get me wrong, I am not saying I am above these things because I am just as guilty as ACB, we all are to one degree or another but I just wanted to highlight it so we may be more aware that it exists and maybe if people read this they may try to change a little.
Once again I do apologise ACB, I look forward to getting to know you better, I am not one to judge on appearances, we are all broken in some way or another.
Now I have some questions for ACB.
I genuinely do not trust man's opinions though and when it comes from man I will require more evidence than if it comes from God.
I agree with you here ACB but how come God has lead me to evolution and I believe his word as written by humans supports that, why is it that we do not agree, you say God's word says this but I say it says that? We both cannot be right and God cannot tell us contradictory stories, so why is it do you think that our beliefs do not line up?
You could say I have been deceived by the Satan with evolution but I in turn could say the same of your beliefs could I not, after all are they not just the words of a man?
One last question, ACB if you were dying of an infection and I was your doctor and I said I could give you a pill (antibiotic) that would cure your infection would you believe the words of a man of science or would you consult the Bible for an answer and a cure?
Anyway that is all I can think of for the moment, as always it is a pleasure to discuss and hopefully no ones has taken any offence here.