Then good for you. You're a one-of-a-kind.Kenny wrote:Kenny wrote:I'm saying choosing corn flakes was not caused by my waking up, something else was involved.True! But waking up was not involved in the decision making process of what to eatAudacity wrote: But although something else was involved, waking up had to be a participating cause. If you hadn't woken up could you have chosen?
KenBut if the cause/effect that lead to the action is controlled by my mind, that's free will; right?Audacity wrote:Not saying it originated outside your mind, only that it was not a free act but one determined by cause/effect. Even this "method" you mention would be operating either utterly randomly or through the process of cause/effect. Take your pick: neither support free will.
KenI’m saying the cause/effect influence come from my mind.Audacity wrote: Free will is a bit more than that.
Will is the capacity to act decisively on one's desires.
Free will is to do so undirected by controlling influences.
Cause/effect events are considered to be controlling influences that direct the will to do X and only X.
The one in control of my mind; me.Audacity wrote: And because of its nature---the effect can only be what it is caused to be---the mind cannot control it. Such cause/effect events only reside in the mind. If one postulated that the mind was in control then the question would be, What makes the mind control X like "this" rather than like "that"?Audacity wrote: And we're right back to square one: beCAUSE. . . . . . . . .
I control my mind via free will.