seedling wrote:Felgar, honestly ... did you actually read any of my posts? I did not make a blanket statement that the bible is not true and we need only seek guidance from within to grow in the Lord. You really didn't read anything I wrote, did you? Just what you wanted to read.
I have read every word. I'm only responding to the portions that I believe to be incorrect - some of what you're saying I have no problem with so I'm not responding to that. So let's get out the way right now what you've said and not said... You didn't say the Bible is not true? You made the incinuation that Adam and Eve, the Flood, even the Virgin Birth could have been borrowed from Roman paigan beliefs!!! This is unbelievable, and is certainly heresy. (Just to show you that I've been reading... Long passages so that they're not taken out of context.)
seedling wrote:August, I believe the bible was written by men who were seeking God, who were inspired to seek a "god" because they were afraid in a hostile world, because they were puzzled by many things that they wanted explained, because some sought a deeper meaning to their existence. These writers realized pertinent human truths. They communicated their wisdom, hope and experiences. Over much time. In different languages. From a different culture. The essence is there. Do I believe every word of the bible is directly from God, or from men "inspired" by God? No.
seedling wrote:Well ... it was never proven to me that it IS divinely inspired. And it resembles other myths and legends that have been documented by other cultures. Adam and Eve. The flood. God reigning fire on the earth from the heavens ... the "virgin" birth and the big deal of Mary conceiving without the taint of sex ... the Trinity ... resurrection. Each of these stories has "pagan" counterparts. Christianity fit in so well with the Roman empire's pagan beliefs that all they had to do was change the names and they had a personage to fit into every deity and belief that they had.
K, with that out of the way I want to get out of the menial arguing and on to the point, which is to encourage other believers reading this to study the infallable and divine Word of God while continuing to grow in their walk with Jesus.
seedling wrote:Neither did I say or even imply everyone should do as I do. I am just sharing what I am seeing in my spiritual walk up to this point in my life, that's all. Why are you so threatened?
I'm threatenned because you are misleading young believers... I started this whole post by explaining how the bible is the key source of external and infallable truth that is necessary to keep us in our walk with God - keeping in mind that Satan has but one purpose to deceive us and mess everything up. And I stand by that... It's no wonder people's faith fails them, when it hasn't been built on the foundation of the Word of God.
And you did, in fact, imply that others (not everyone, but others certainly) should do as you do. Remember your advice to Deborah?
seedling wrote:Deborah ... the people who wrote the bible were just like you and I. The Spirit speaks in a million ways. Hang on to the spirit in the Word ... you don't need to force yourself to study it so much or remember verses ...
seedling wrote:Brian will get all kinds of advice from everywhere ... ultimately he has to hear what the spirit is speaking to him and not be indoctrinated by anyone to believe anything. He will go out into this jungle of a world like all the rest of us with the precious seed God has given him inside and he will get battered and beat and confused and put down and lose hope and find it again ... and the seed will continue to grow because of the spirit within him, if he waters it and nurtures it.
He should not be indocrinated by anyone. But what he should do to strengthen his faith, is to freely chose to serve Jesus; to study the Bible and learn what it says. The more you know about it the more your faith will grow as you come to understand the infallabilty and wondrous nature of God and His Word. I offer these final words of encouragement to Brian, who the Word has given the perfect answer to how we can refute Satan's schemes and grow in our Faith. The reason Brian is struggling is because he's under attack by Satan... And Brian can use the Word just like Jesus did to put the devil and his lies to an end.
Finally, be strong in the Lord and in his mighty power. Put on the full armor of God so that you can take your stand against the devil's schemes. For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the authorities, against the powers of this dark world and against the spiritual forces of evil in the heavenly realms.
Therefore put on the full armor of God, so that when the day of evil comes, you may be able to stand your ground, and after you have done everything, to stand. Stand firm then, with the belt of truth buckled around your waist,
with the breastplate of righteousness in place, and with your feet fitted with the readiness that comes from the gospel of peace.
In addition to all this, take up the shield of faith, with which you can extinguish all the flaming arrows of the evil one. Take the helmet of salvation and the sword of the Spirit, which is the word of God.
And pray in the Spirit on all occasions with all kinds of prayers and requests. With this in mind, be alert and always keep on praying for all the saints.
Now I highlighted the portions referencing the Bible and studying it. But as a final note I want to point out how the passage also shows the importance of faith, salvation, and prayer to our walk with God. The passage is telling us to listen to the Holy Spirit, to seek Jesus in prayer, and at the same time to learn and know the Word of God.