My statement is: Man is fallible, man seeks his Perfect Creator, the bible is the fallible story of man's seeking and yearning for his Perfect Creator containing the history of an intelligent and strong race of people, many beautiful truths and introducing us to a perfect man, Jesus, who demonstrated to us how to be proper human beings and to seek the kingdom first.
OK, so it like my statement:
"Man is fallible, man wrote the Bible, therefore the Bible is fallible."
Just in more words. You do acknowledge Jesus as perfect.
John 1:1 (NIV)
In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
Word here is translated as: logos, log'-os; from Greek 3004 (lego); something said (including the thought); by implication a topic (subject of discourse), specially (with the art. in John) the Divine Expression (i.e. Christ)
So Jesus is put on equal footing here with the Bible, and yet you seem to still contend it is a lie. If One part of something is a lie, then everything in it is a lie. There is no partial truth, especially not in the Bible, since that would invalidate the whole. You cannot exclude certain parts of God-inspired scripture, for it is to deny the truth.
The bible contains truths. These truths may point us in the direction of who God is. I can know about God by looking at his creation ... the Native Americans knew God before the Europeans came here ... and they never read the bible. And obviously the Europeans didn't know God or Jesus either even though they had the bible.
The Bible is the truth, not partially true. It is meant to be read as a whole, since from Adam to Jesus the theme runs through the Bible, and ends with God coming to earth to establish His new kingdom. There can be no untruths in between, for it will invalidate the whole theme and central message. You keep asserting this without being specific and providing evidence to back it up. If you cannot be specific about what and where the untruths are, we will have to accept that this is merely a strawman argument to suit an as yet unnamed agenda.
Sure you can know about God by looking at His creation, that is God's general revelation, and the reason no-one has any excuse to be an atheist.
How do you know that the Europeans did not know God, or Jesus? That is a pretty broad statement, seeing as you just asserted that those without a Bible knows God. The only reason we know about God and Jesus today is because of the Europeans protecting, keeping, translating and printing the Bible, and the only reason you know about Him and use His value system to condemn His Holy Book.
Yes, I believe it is one source ... probably to me the best source. But God created my spirit, heart, and mind first. The bible came much much later.
God is eternal, and the Bible is a verbal rendition of God's mind. So there cannot be any question that the Bible has existed forever, maybe just not verbalized. To say that God created you first is putting you before God Himself.
Seedling, I have to ask, who are you a student of? Who is this person that you heard on the radio that changed your life? Whose teachings do you currently follow?