Biochip=Mark of the Beast?

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Biochip=Mark of the Beast?

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Post by Mystical » Sun Jan 01, 2006 7:32 pm

Been having alot of discussions on whether the biochip is the Mark of the Beast. Thought it was until I read this. Any thoughts?

Is the biochip the Mark of the Beast?

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Post by numeral2_5 » Sun Jan 01, 2006 11:50 pm

Nope.
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Post by Mystical » Mon Jan 02, 2006 12:16 pm

Nope, what?
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Post by Kurieuo » Mon Jan 02, 2006 5:19 pm

Wouldn't it simply be much easier to say the mark resembles those who have sided against God, and that God simply knows who have this mark by looking at the hearts of people?

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Post by Mystical » Mon Jan 02, 2006 5:44 pm

I don't know, it might be easier. :) But, if only God would know, how could the mark stop people from buying food, etc.? Biochip sounded alot like it until I read the article. Now I'm not too sure.
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Post by SUGAAAAA » Tue Jan 03, 2006 2:33 am

One would assume that if the biochip is highly suspected by many to be the future-mark-of-the-beast, they should, i dont know, stop the biochip from ever being produced/used.
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Post by puritan lad » Tue Jan 03, 2006 5:59 am

Sugaaa

Check this out. Should answer this prety well...

http://www.reformed.org/eschaton/beast.html
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Post by SUGAAAAA » Wed Jan 04, 2006 9:10 pm

thank you...



I have been thinking of taking the preterist view, as long as they dont go against some beliefs I hold firmly to... I will continue researching.
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Post by puritan lad » Thu Jan 05, 2006 8:04 am

SUGAAAAA wrote:thank you...

I have been thinking of taking the preterist view, as long as they dont go against some beliefs I hold firmly to... I will continue researching.
Great. I have some books I can recommend if you like. Just beware, there is a heretical form of hyper-preterism that teaches that everything, including the Second Advent, the Resurrection, and the Final Judgment have already taken place.

Also, I have some great books in PDF format that I can send you. They are too big to upload here.

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Post by Mystical » Fri Jan 06, 2006 12:37 pm

I still don't see how Nero fit all the qualifications of the antichrist. There was no mark associated with him. Nothing.
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Post by puritan lad » Sat Jan 07, 2006 8:02 am

Mystical,

What is "antichrist" according to the scriptures? (You won't findthe word "antichrist" in the Book of Revelation".)

The mark was no more literal than the binding of the law to the forehead and hands was in Deut. 6:6-8. Nero, by definition, was certainly an antuchrist, but more specifically, he was the beast.

A.) The Beast is the 4th Kingdom (Daniel 7:7,23). Let's Count...

1.) Babylonian
2.) Medo-Persian
3.) Macedonian
4.) Roman

B.) Nero is the 6th Roman Emperor (Rev. 17:10)

1.) Julius
2.) Augustus
3.) Tiberius
4.) Caligula
5.) Claudius
6.) Nero
7.) Galba (short time - killed after 6 month in office)

C.) Nero demanded worship (Rev. 13:6).

D.) Nero made war with the saints for a period of 42 months (a few months after the Great Fire in Rome in 64 AD until his suicide in 68 AD.) - (Rev. 13:5,7)

E.) Nero killed with the sword (Paul) and was killed by the sword (He committed suicide with the help of his secretary by cutting his throat) - (Rev. 13:10).

F.) The number (Hebrew Gematria) of Nero's name is Six Hundred and Sixty Six.

Nero Caesar
Hebrew nrwn qsr = 666

Also considering the fact that John was writing Revelation to seven first century churches (Rev. 1:4) about "things which must shortly take place" (Rev. 1:1), were "near" (Rev. 1:3), and were "about to come upon all the world" (Rev. 3:10), who else would even be a candidate?
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Post by Mystical » Sat Jan 07, 2006 10:50 am

puritan lad,

I know. Alot of the stuff you say makes sense. That's why I'm asking. However, I can't get past the "mark" and the "those who do not bear the mark will be unable to buy" part, or the "miracles" part. Him not fitting these, how do you explain that?
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Post by puritan lad » Sun Jan 08, 2006 6:37 pm

Those who did not recognize the diety of the Roman state were ostracized from the market place, plundered by tax collectors, and persecuted even unto death. Those who participated in Caesar worship were branded with his mark. Those who worshipped the true God were branded with God's mark (Revelation 14:1). The marks are not literal.
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Post by SUGAAAAA » Sun Jan 08, 2006 10:29 pm

send me the PDF books, Puritan.

Just how many forms of Preterism are there?
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Post by Mystical » Mon Jan 09, 2006 10:37 am

Cool. Just two more questions: How about the miracles? And isn't the "antichrist" supposed to stand in some temple and declare he is God?
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