puritan lad wrote:G-Man,
Not really a lot of substance in your post. Actually, I only gave a few verses with time frame references. There are many more. How is my case weak? What do you think these men were talking about?
As far as opposing God and using his name in vain, you'll have to be more specific?
You are suggesting that Jesus was speaking of the second death? In that case, what does the coming of His kingdom have to do with it? Are some going to Hell before his kingdom comes, and others afterwards? Is this what the Apostles understood? No wonder that were all mistaken about the Second coming (I've actually had people tell me that in weaker moments.)
Matthew 16:28 is vague – what death is mentioned, PL?
Was it like Stephens death?
He saw what?
Or does it refer to the second death or the first resurrection?
Where is Christ, physically ruling from Jerusalem since 70 AD, PL? History holds no hint of peace after 70 AD.
Christ supposed to rule form the church – has not happened either – can one ignore the long bloody history of infighting in the historical record? No peace…
Jesus’ meaning in Matthew 16:28 goes much deeper that Preterism allows and can apply to those martyred whose historical accounts record them seeing Christ coming in the clouds, or see Christ as Stephen did, or the second death, or their own first death and entry into heaven (many hospice accounts from staff report people seeing the angel dance, or Christ coming for them), or the first resurrection of believers where the rewards are given in a new body which has not happened yet. Maybe Jesus meant all these things?
Therefore any who heard Him, what he says would be true for them, as it was for Stephan
Luke 9:27 came before Luke 10:1 who were the Seventy?