The Occult

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The Occult

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Post by Ant » Sun Oct 16, 2011 3:00 am

Most people don't know this, but the word "occult" actually means hidden from the eye or understanding.

http://www.websters-online-dictionary.o ... s/occulted

Most people assume that anything in the "occult" is evil, but God hides stuff too, and when God hides stuff it is also called the "occult". In fact, I think God hides stuff far more than the devil.

There's a whole lot of things that people do which are bad, and people know they are bad, but they do them anyway. There's no need to hide the fact that such things are bad, people will do them anyway.

I believe the stuff which is supernatural, is mostly a fantasy. I believe in science. If you study the occult in hopes of learning to do supernatural stuff, than you are very likely to be lead astray. In fact, if you study anything in hopes of any sort of personal gain, you are not likely to find yourself on a path toward God's wisdom.

God hides stuff so that only the pure of heart can find them. Those with greed or self interest in their heart, won't find God's wisdom. Those with closed minds or arrogance won't find God's wisdom either. Those who's minds are filled with hate won't find God's wisdom either. The occult is how God communicates to his profits. By placing little messages into all sorts of stuff.

I don't know why, but it seems when I tell people that pretty much everything in the Bible is encrypted, they disagree. Seriously, do you really understand the book of Revelations? Most stuff in the Bible is given on a need to know basis. If you don't need to know, you don't know.

Does an army tell everyone its battle plans before it goes into battle? Of course not. Likewise, God does not reveal his plans, except to those who need to know. God's plans are "occulted" or hidden from the understanding.

Sometimes God's wisdom is to be used to identify his profits. Sometimes they are instructions for his profits. Sometimes they are instructions for specific people.

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Re: The Occult

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Post by Danieltwotwenty » Sun Oct 16, 2011 3:35 pm

Seriously, do you really understand the book of Revelations?
I may not be smart enough to understand in it's entireity but i do understand how the events will transpire and that is all i really need to know.
I dont beleive that God hides the information, I think we hide it from oursleves and only when we read it with an open heart will we understand.
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Post by neo-x » Mon Oct 17, 2011 5:35 am

God hides stuff so that only the pure of heart can find them. Those with greed or self interest in their heart, won't find God's wisdom. Those with closed minds or arrogance won't find God's wisdom either. Those who's minds are filled with hate won't find God's wisdom either. The occult is how God communicates to his profits. By placing little messages into all sorts of stuff.

I don't know why, but it seems when I tell people that pretty much everything in the Bible is encrypted, they disagree. Seriously, do you really understand the book of Revelations? Most stuff in the Bible is given on a need to know basis. If you don't need to know, you don't know.

Does an army tell everyone its battle plans before it goes into battle? Of course not. Likewise, God does not reveal his plans, except to those who need to know. God's plans are "occulted" or hidden from the understanding.

Sometimes God's wisdom is to be used to identify his profits. Sometimes they are instructions for his profits. Sometimes they are instructions for specific people.

Tony
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Post by Byblos » Mon Oct 17, 2011 6:31 am

Ant wrote:Sometimes God's wisdom is to be used to identify his profits. Sometimes they are instructions for his profits. Sometimes they are instructions for specific people.
That's because God's profits are the devil's losses. :ebiggrin:
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Post by RickD » Mon Oct 17, 2011 7:27 am

Byblos wrote:
Ant wrote:Sometimes God's wisdom is to be used to identify his profits. Sometimes they are instructions for his profits. Sometimes they are instructions for specific people.
That's because God's profits are the devil's losses. :ebiggrin:
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Re: The Occult

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Post by PaulSacramento » Tue Oct 18, 2011 10:51 am

Danieltwotwenty wrote:
Seriously, do you really understand the book of Revelations?
I may not be smart enough to understand in it's entireity but i do understand how the events will transpire and that is all i really need to know.
I dont beleive that God hides the information, I think we hide it from oursleves and only when we read it with an open heart will we understand.
Matthew 13:1-9
Matthew 13:13
Parables were a very common way of explaining things in 1st century Palestine.
It still is a great teaching tool.
Did some people not understand them?
Of course, even nowadays people still smoke even though on the box it says smoking will kill you.
If some people refuse to understand what is plain they will never even try to understand what is parable.
I do however think that many times Jesus' parables had deeper meaning for his apostles than they did for the everyday person, simply because He wanted them to have FULL understanding of WHO He was, WHAT He was there for and WHAT was gonna happen.

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