Collateral damage

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Collateral damage

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Post by stuartcr » Thu Aug 07, 2014 8:31 am

Why is collateral damage acceptable?

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Re: Collateral damage

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Post by RickD » Thu Aug 07, 2014 8:38 am

stuartcr wrote:Why is collateral damage acceptable?
Regarding what?
1 Corinthians 1:9
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Re: Collateral damage

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Post by stuartcr » Thu Aug 07, 2014 9:53 am

Wars

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Post by RickD » Thu Aug 07, 2014 10:16 am

Maybe for those it's acceptable to, the end justifies the means.
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Re: Collateral damage

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Post by PaulSacramento » Thu Aug 07, 2014 10:20 am

It isn't acceptable.
It is a fact of war nevertheless.

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Post by stuartcr » Thu Aug 07, 2014 10:55 am

A fact, like a natural disaster?

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Post by PaulSacramento » Thu Aug 07, 2014 11:06 am

stuartcr wrote:A fact, like a natural disaster?
No, a fact of war, of battle.
There is no way around collateral damage in open warfare, humans make mistakes, machines make mistakes.
An enemy plane is shot down and lands on houses, a bobby trap is set off by a kid, a missile's GPS calibration is off and strikes a hospital.

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Post by stuartcr » Thu Aug 07, 2014 12:50 pm

What about bombing from 20Kft? Many strikes are planned with an acceptable percentage of known collateral damage.

Are deaths by natural disasters considered acceptable?

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Post by SeekingSanctuary » Thu Aug 07, 2014 4:01 pm

stuartcr wrote:What about bombing from 20Kft? Many strikes are planned with an acceptable percentage of known collateral damage.

Are deaths by natural disasters considered acceptable?
We are not in control of natural disasters. Acceptable does not matter.

A bombing, when it avoids a land invasion, is preferable. The other option tends to lead to far more deaths. Sometimes they may do a small scale operation with a few soldiers, but this is usually top secret like the raid on Bin Laden's compound. Typically the bombing is done in part because it minimizes collateral damage.

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Re: Collateral damage

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Post by Furstentum Liechtenstein » Thu Aug 07, 2014 4:18 pm

The term ''collateral damage'' is fairly recent, perhaps 10 or 20 years old at the most. Before that, people were smart enough to understand that war is awful for all involved.

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Re: Collateral damage

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Post by PaulSacramento » Fri Aug 08, 2014 5:03 am

stuartcr wrote:What about bombing from 20Kft? Many strikes are planned with an acceptable percentage of known collateral damage.

Are deaths by natural disasters considered acceptable?
Death's via natural events are a part of life for people the live in areas prone to dangerous natural events.
Are they preventable? Perhaps, at least to some degree.
Are they acceptable?
To the people that live in Tornado alley for example, it seems so.

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Post by stuartcr » Fri Aug 08, 2014 8:19 am

SeekingSanctuary wrote:
stuartcr wrote:What about bombing from 20Kft? Many strikes are planned with an acceptable percentage of known collateral damage.

Are deaths by natural disasters considered acceptable?
We are not in control of natural disasters. Acceptable does not matter.

A bombing, when it avoids a land invasion, is preferable. The other option tends to lead to far more deaths. Sometimes they may do a small scale operation with a few soldiers, but this is usually top secret like the raid on Bin Laden's compound. Typically the bombing is done in part because it minimizes collateral damage.
In wars, who figures out which side is the good side and that any deaths are preferable?

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Post by PaulSacramento » Fri Aug 08, 2014 8:29 am

stuartcr wrote:
SeekingSanctuary wrote:
stuartcr wrote:What about bombing from 20Kft? Many strikes are planned with an acceptable percentage of known collateral damage.

Are deaths by natural disasters considered acceptable?
We are not in control of natural disasters. Acceptable does not matter.

A bombing, when it avoids a land invasion, is preferable. The other option tends to lead to far more deaths. Sometimes they may do a small scale operation with a few soldiers, but this is usually top secret like the raid on Bin Laden's compound. Typically the bombing is done in part because it minimizes collateral damage.
In wars, who figures out which side is the good side and that any deaths are preferable?
Everyone always thinks their side is right.

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Re: Collateral damage

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Post by stuartcr » Tue Aug 12, 2014 7:57 am

So how does God decide which side is guilty of killing innocents and which side is killing innocents just because it's a fact of war? Or does God even care when it comes to wars?

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Re: Collateral damage

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Post by PaulSacramento » Tue Aug 12, 2014 8:14 am

stuartcr wrote:So how does God decide which side is guilty of killing innocents and which side is killing innocents just because it's a fact of war? Or does God even care when it comes to wars?

God KNOWS WHY we do what we do, there is no hiding or misleading God. He KNOWS.

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