Two kinds of morality

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Re: Two kinds of morality

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Post by PaulSacramento » Thu Jul 31, 2014 12:47 pm

RickD wrote:
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tawny wrote:
The Protector wrote: indeed, that we spend so much time wringing our hands asking why there is evil if God exists, when the truly baffling question is why there is good if He does not.
I am no theologian, but just from a simple Christian's point of view, this is what I tell people when we discuss evil. If there were no God, there would be no good, so the existence of good tells me that God exists. For instance, when some human goes bonkers and kills a bunch of people, I wholeheartedly agree that it is awful, but then I wonder, why doesn't this happen all the time? There must be something, someone, preventing it. It makes perfect sense to me, but most people can't seem to grasp this.
Perhaps God just is, and the concept of good and evil is strictly a human concept?
Why, if it is a human Concetta, would it exist at all then?
I was all excited that I was going to learn a new word today. Then I googled "Concetta", and found no definition. Is it a Canadian idiom?
LMAO !

I actually knew a latina hotty named Maria Concetta, might have been a Freudian slip there...

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Re: Two kinds of morality

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Post by stuartcr » Fri Aug 01, 2014 8:48 am

PaulSacramento wrote:
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tawny wrote:
The Protector wrote: indeed, that we spend so much time wringing our hands asking why there is evil if God exists, when the truly baffling question is why there is good if He does not.
I am no theologian, but just from a simple Christian's point of view, this is what I tell people when we discuss evil. If there were no God, there would be no good, so the existence of good tells me that God exists. For instance, when some human goes bonkers and kills a bunch of people, I wholeheartedly agree that it is awful, but then I wonder, why doesn't this happen all the time? There must be something, someone, preventing it. It makes perfect sense to me, but most people can't seem to grasp this.
Perhaps God just is, and the concept of good and evil is strictly a human concept?
Why, if it is a human Concetta, would it exist at all then?
Not sure about Concetta, but if you mean concept, then it exists because it's part of being human. As to the why, how would I know? You will have to get that answer from God.

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Re: Two kinds of morality

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Post by PaulSacramento » Fri Aug 01, 2014 9:47 am

stuartcr wrote:
PaulSacramento wrote:
stuartcr wrote:
tawny wrote:
The Protector wrote: indeed, that we spend so much time wringing our hands asking why there is evil if God exists, when the truly baffling question is why there is good if He does not.
I am no theologian, but just from a simple Christian's point of view, this is what I tell people when we discuss evil. If there were no God, there would be no good, so the existence of good tells me that God exists. For instance, when some human goes bonkers and kills a bunch of people, I wholeheartedly agree that it is awful, but then I wonder, why doesn't this happen all the time? There must be something, someone, preventing it. It makes perfect sense to me, but most people can't seem to grasp this.
Perhaps God just is, and the concept of good and evil is strictly a human concept?
Why, if it is a human Concetta, would it exist at all then?
Not sure about Concetta, but if you mean concept, then it exists because it's part of being human. As to the why, how would I know? You will have to get that answer from God.
Yes, it was a typo for concept.

The point is that every human concept we have has come from meeting some need, some view, something.
So, where would a human ( the first one to invent the concept of good and evil) get the notion that such a thing exists?

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Re: Two kinds of morality

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Post by kowalskil » Sat Aug 02, 2014 7:02 pm

The term "such a thing" has different meaning to different people.

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Re: Two kinds of morality

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Post by stuartcr » Mon Aug 04, 2014 1:09 pm

Why, if it is a human Concetta, would it exist at all then?[/quote]

Not sure about Concetta, but if you mean concept, then it exists because it's part of being human. As to the why, how would I know? You will have to get that answer from God.[/quote]
Yes, it was a typo for concept.

The point is that every human concept we have has come from meeting some need, some view, something.
So, where would a human ( the first one to invent the concept of good and evil) get the notion that such a thing exists?[/quote]
I don't know that every human concept we have comes from meeting a need. Maybe it wasn't invented by a human, but is what makes us human? We would get it from God. Perhaps the need, is to be able to make laws and live in societies.

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Re: Two kinds of morality

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Post by PaulSacramento » Tue Aug 05, 2014 5:08 am

stuartcr wrote:Why, if it is a human Concetta, would it exist at all then?
Not sure about Concetta, but if you mean concept, then it exists because it's part of being human. As to the why, how would I know? You will have to get that answer from God.[/quote]
Yes, it was a typo for concept.

The point is that every human concept we have has come from meeting some need, some view, something.
So, where would a human ( the first one to invent the concept of good and evil) get the notion that such a thing exists?[/quote]
I don't know that every human concept we have comes from meeting a need. Maybe it wasn't invented by a human, but is what makes us human? We would get it from God. Perhaps the need, is to be able to make laws and live in societies.[/quote]

Why would we NEED to make any laws or even live in societies?
Small groups make sense of course, we see this in the animal kingdoms, but what would compel humans to create societies and laws to govern them?

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Re: Two kinds of morality

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Post by stuartcr » Tue Aug 05, 2014 8:57 am

Human nature I imagine. You're asking questions of a man, that cannot be answered by man. I learned a long time ago, that there are many things that we just cannot know. It really doesn't bother me. I'm just glad God made me the way I am, and I'm happy just to put my 80 or so years on this planet, and move on to maybe something else.

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