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Re: Homosexuality

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Post by Proinsias » Wed Nov 16, 2011 3:53 pm

Well I have been baptised.........

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Post by DannyM » Wed Nov 16, 2011 3:54 pm

Proinsias wrote:Well I have been baptised.........
That means you've got the Holy Spirit :esurprised:
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Re: Homosexuality

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Post by Proinsias » Wed Nov 16, 2011 3:55 pm

Yay!

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Post by DannyM » Wed Nov 16, 2011 3:56 pm

:lol:
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Re: Homosexuality

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Post by RickD » Wed Nov 16, 2011 5:10 pm

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Proinsias wrote:Well I have been baptised.........
That means you've got the Holy Spirit :esurprised:
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Re: Homosexuality

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Post by Widge » Thu Nov 17, 2011 1:11 am

Homosexuals are just as sinful as Christians. We all fall short of Gods glory. Jesus loves all including Homosexuals. Shame the Church in general doe snot follow suit

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Post by jlay » Thu Nov 17, 2011 6:44 am

Widge, how about actually repsonding to comments directed towards you, instead of just speaking platitiudes.
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Post by Murray » Thu Nov 17, 2011 5:35 pm

And god most definitely does make a take a sexual sin differently. Perhaps re-read 1 Corinthians chapter 6, john makes this very clear that you are vandalizing god's temple by committing sinful acts of the flesh
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Re: Homosexuality

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Post by Widge » Fri Nov 18, 2011 1:20 am

jlay wrote:Widge, how about actually repsonding to comments directed towards you, instead of just speaking platitiudes.
That does not answer my claim that our churches focus on judging others when Jesus told us not to judge and Jesus told us not to cast the first stone.

Speaking to Gay friends and Gay colleagues at work all of them say that when they were young they were attracted to men therefore God made them Gay. They all came from Hetrosexual families too. How do we reconcile God saying it is a sin when he obviously creates people born Gay?

How do we reconcile loving others as ouselves as Jesus taught with judging people for feelings they cannot help?

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Re: Homosexuality

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Post by neo-x » Fri Nov 18, 2011 1:33 am

Speaking to Gay friends and Gay colleagues at work all of them say that when they were young they were attracted to men therefore God made them Gay. They all came from Hetrosexual families too. How do we reconcile God saying it is a sin when he obviously creates people born Gay?
Right there is the assumption, "God made them Gay"...well no man is tempted but by the desires of his own heart. Didn't you read that in James 1:14. God doesn't make Gay people as he surely doesn't make prostitutes or slaves. An assumption is not proof.
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Re: Homosexuality

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Post by Widge » Fri Nov 18, 2011 5:54 am

That verse does not answer my question. God does sometimes create people who are gay. That is a fact just like sometimes God does not answer our prayers the way we want or God does not always heal. These are facts which unfortunately some of us ignore. This makes Christians look ignorant and naïve at best. Liars at the worst.

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Re: Homosexuality

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Post by DannyM » Fri Nov 18, 2011 6:01 am

Speaking to Gay friends and Gay colleagues at work all of them say that when they were young they were attracted to men therefore God made them Gay. They all came from Hetrosexual families too. How do we reconcile God saying it is a sin when he obviously creates people born Gay?
Wow, that's a powerful argument and is in no way an empty assertion.
Widge wrote:That verse does not answer my question. God does sometimes create people who are gay. That is a fact
No it's not, it's an assertion that requires backing...
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Re: Homosexuality

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Post by Widge » Fri Nov 18, 2011 6:21 am

DannyM wrote:
Speaking to Gay friends and Gay colleagues at work all of them say that when they were young they were attracted to men therefore God made them Gay. They all came from Hetrosexual families too. How do we reconcile God saying it is a sin when he obviously creates people born Gay?
Wow, that's a powerful argument and is in no way an empty assertion.
Widge wrote:That verse does not answer my question. God does sometimes create people who are gay. That is a fact
No it's not, it's an assertion that requires backing...
Where is YOUR backing that God does not create Gay people?

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Re: Homosexuality

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Post by DannyM » Fri Nov 18, 2011 6:23 am

Widge wrote:Where is YOUR backing that God does not create Gay people?
Is that how you back up your assertions? Do you have the courage of your convictions?
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Re: Homosexuality

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Post by Widge » Fri Nov 18, 2011 6:25 am

DannyM wrote:
Widge wrote:Where is YOUR backing that God does not create Gay people?
Is that how you back up your assertions? Do you have the courage of your convictions?
I know Gay people and have asked them the question. I have primary evidence. Where is yours?

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