Evidence for God from Science

I don't believe I actually ever said God's creation of us and our world was "just" for pleasure, as though God wanted to fulfill his own hedonistic desires. You misunderstood my "whole" reply if you took it this way. My apologies. I think I put a bit too much emphasis on a few w...

colors wrote:macroevolution is rubbish. there is no proof for it whatsoever.

Thank you. Finally a bit of help.

hermit, i don't think the bible directly says he loves us more, but indirectly states this by stating that we are the greatest/most prized of his creations. that would imply that he loves us the most. i guess that was why satan and the fallen angels hated us so much and were so jealous. but why, wh...

Err, that's quite an assumption there. Saying it made them according to their kind doesn't mean He's giving us the process of His creation any more than simply saying He made them. I repeat, can we agree to dissagree? I'm convinced its more logical for literal creation, you like evolution. Fine.

Hi Hermitville, I don't understand why you say that it had to be fixed, updated and helped along. I believe the Creator started life. And then pretty much took a hands off approach. Life is evolving over billions of years. And it is part of the Creator. It is changing into something new all the tim...

hermit, since our answers are so simple and emotion based, what's your answer to all this? it must be good! I don't have one yet, that's why I asked the question. I have pondered most of these answers in the past and rejected them as being the primary reason. However, I am beginning to think that i...

I would agree except: It cost God His son. That certainly wasn't pleasurable. If it was just for pleasure then why not create a world in which He need not send His son? I mean the angels could serve the same purpose and they don't need saving. If you could have the perfect pet (whatever you think th...

No, He didn't but I believe it likely. The theory is that he set and example of a week for us. Apparently the brilliant French decided once back in the day to try and go to a 10 day week. Sounds like a good idea. I like the number 10. But apparently it didn't work; the human body was just made for a...

no, its all good.

You suggested it. Unless you have a third alternative as to what process God used to create animals? Our mere existance, according to you, breaks the Second Law so I fail to see why evolution couldn't work. I begin to understand now. OK, I'm going to try to put my thoughts into words. <grimaces> Fi...

My opinion, flame away....:) God created us to glorify Him. Since He is the highest power, He can't glorify Himself, He needs some 'subjects' to glorify Him, and serve in His kingdom. Praise and honor we bestow on Him can only be regarded as sincere when we do it out of our own free will, if He mad...

I'm so confused. Who suggested popping animals out of nothing. I don't remember this...maybe I missed it? My point was that evolution defies the Second Law and therefore is not a viable theory. (Also see my other points on why evolution doesn't work) If God doesn't break His own laws then He wouldn'...

I'm going to stop replying because we are in agrement, even if I did a poor job of showing that.

The suggestion that God initiated evolution?
That wasn't my suggestion, I was arguing against it, or trying to.

People claim that the three of us (Christians, Jews, Muslims) have the same God but even if that is the case, we define Him differenetly. Which makes Him kinda different.