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by ttoews
Sat Oct 21, 2006 7:10 pm
Forum: Christian Theology
Topic: What Would You Have Asked Lazarus?
Replies: 210
Views: 26223

FFC wrote:As much as I am proud to be an American....
oh my, I see you suffer from a much more serious problem than the questionable interpretation of a few passages on hell :lol:
....I wouldn't compare america to heaven. :)
good point...the hot spot doesn't even look that bad by comparison :wink:
by ttoews
Sat Oct 21, 2006 2:24 pm
Forum: Christian Theology
Topic: What Would You Have Asked Lazarus?
Replies: 210
Views: 26223

Question is - can you and I take God at his word: the smoke of their torment arises forever and ever describes as much as the old saying - it is raining cats and dogs. BW, I have dealt with the smoke verse already...and so you should be able to see that I am taking God at His word. Here is another ...
by ttoews
Sat Oct 21, 2006 1:55 pm
Forum: Christian Theology
Topic: What Would You Have Asked Lazarus?
Replies: 210
Views: 26223

Re: Is eternal death eternal punishment?

How can there be an experience of loss if there is no awareness? The hell that is a place of utmost torment and despair - all those terrible things - can be no punishment for me if I do not experience it. If annihilation was my lot, I would have no experience of hell. I believe that there is just r...
by ttoews
Fri Oct 20, 2006 9:22 pm
Forum: Christian Theology
Topic: What Would You Have Asked Lazarus?
Replies: 210
Views: 26223

My belief is that, when we stand in the full light of God and Judgement, that there is a full realization of the truth of who He is and who we are - in other words, perfect insight - and a part of that realization includes how we were created to be with Him, our true end which is ultimately desirab...
by ttoews
Fri Oct 20, 2006 9:02 pm
Forum: Christian Theology
Topic: What Would You Have Asked Lazarus?
Replies: 210
Views: 26223

B. W. wrote:Then I stand corrected and owe you an apology ...
thanks, that was gracious of you.
by ttoews
Fri Oct 20, 2006 9:01 pm
Forum: Christian Theology
Topic: What Would You Have Asked Lazarus?
Replies: 210
Views: 26223

Ttoews. it's one thing to be separated from God and still partake of His general grace in this life (the rain falls on the just and the unjust)...and another to have that completely removed from you and be eternally damned without hope. fair enough, but do you find this distinction made in the vers...
by ttoews
Fri Oct 20, 2006 2:42 pm
Forum: Christian Theology
Topic: What Would You Have Asked Lazarus?
Replies: 210
Views: 26223

So, Don, would you say that the unconscious punishment is not having conscious eternal life in heaven with God? If so than most people would say "so what!". How is it punishment to be separated from God and annihilated forever from someone and something that most people could care less about. I'm t...
by ttoews
Fri Oct 20, 2006 2:20 pm
Forum: Christian Theology
Topic: What Would You Have Asked Lazarus?
Replies: 210
Views: 26223

Re: Fire or No Fire?

Hello To All, Lately I have seen several comments about the eternal punishment being a "separation from God" rather than any physical torture by fire. You all know what I believe the everlasting punishment is. Please let me know what you all believe it to be. If you don't believe it will be eternal...
by ttoews
Fri Oct 20, 2006 2:09 pm
Forum: Christian Theology
Topic: What Would You Have Asked Lazarus?
Replies: 210
Views: 26223

Re: Fire or No Fire?

It's not one or the other. The way I see it, "separation from God" will result in some type of "real" and "eternal" anguish that will very much be discernable. Exactly what form this anguish will take is a bit ambiguous, I'll grant you that much. there should be a bit more to it than that....as I h...
by ttoews
Fri Oct 20, 2006 2:02 pm
Forum: Christian Theology
Topic: What Would You Have Asked Lazarus?
Replies: 210
Views: 26223

...one thing that Annihilationist doctrine does it demonstrates derision towards the fear of God and shows disdains for the word of God. It seeks to supplant God's wisdom's with man's own. It exalts human reason other God's. this is just wrong...look again at my posts on this thread and you will se...
by ttoews
Sun Oct 08, 2006 6:14 pm
Forum: Christian Theology
Topic: "Seven Reasons NOT to Ask Jesus into Your Heart"
Replies: 274
Views: 48568

Jac, you wrote: 1. I assert that "Salvation is absolutely nothing more or less than the pure acceptance of the free gift of salvation offered by Jesus Christ. I can conceive of many people who would accept salvation but refuse to follow Jesus." (1). You argued that is not salvation, as God will not ...
by ttoews
Fri Oct 06, 2006 10:41 am
Forum: Christian Theology
Topic: What Would You Have Asked Lazarus?
Replies: 210
Views: 26223

That's funny (if you really meant it as a joke; it's really hard to tell sometimes....). if ever a doubt...asume that I am joking While I do believe that the RCC is a direct descendent of the church Jesus established on earth through Peter the rock and through papal succession, I do not believe exc...
by ttoews
Fri Oct 06, 2006 10:35 am
Forum: Christian Theology
Topic: What Would You Have Asked Lazarus?
Replies: 210
Views: 26223

FFC wrote:I think Ttoews is saying that when he goes to heaven the general consensus is going to be "there goes the neighborhood".
FFC, you are hereby appointed as my official translator...the pay sucks and the work is never ending, but alas the calling and appointment are irrevocable :wink:
by ttoews
Thu Oct 05, 2006 7:39 pm
Forum: Christian Theology
Topic: What Would You Have Asked Lazarus?
Replies: 210
Views: 26223

I would agree with that, the same way eternal punishment in Mat 25:46 means the eternal separation from the world of everlasting life. It is not annihilation but a separation. funny, I think annihilation would result in a separation Further, the word "punishment" in Matt 25:46 is derived from a wor...
by ttoews
Thu Oct 05, 2006 3:16 pm
Forum: Christian Theology
Topic: What Would You Have Asked Lazarus?
Replies: 210
Views: 26223

Yet again you are correct that the act of pronouncing the punishment need not be continuous, in fact it is a one time event. But the act of exacting the punishment most certainly is eternal ..... that would depend on the punishment. Imprisonment that is to last forever requires an eternal exacting,...