Evidence for God from Science

Socal wrote: Note the same Greek word is used twice in Ephesians 1:6, to describe all believers:  "To the praise of the glory of his grace, wherein he hath made (χαριτόω) us accepted (χαριτόω) in the beloved."  SoCal : You can't appeal to God here as if your assertion is proven fact, which it is no...

It's just my experience ES. Perhaps I would be inclined to think it's just in my circles but it has carried over from primary to high school. yeah, this is why i asked. it seems far more reaching than just a family or so... how do you experience their unbelief ? I know quite a few people who send t...

none of them are believers, even though they identify as Catholic.

Mel, this is terrible. what are they saying or what are the indicators of their unbelief ?

it's called Typology socal ... Typology in Christian theology and Biblical exegesis is a doctrine or theory concerning the relationship of the Old Testament to the New Testament. Events, persons, or statements in the Old Testament are seen as types pre-figuring or superseded by antitypes, events or ...

Postby SoCalExile » Sat May 14, 2016 1:50 pm RickD wrote: Mary being sinless is neither necessary nor biblical. If God could keep Mary sinless, as Catholicism teaches, why couldn't God keep Jesus sinless in Mary's womb? Bingo! That's what I was trying to say but was unable to make clear. :clap: i'm...

philip: And realizing Jesus willingly suffered as a human - far more than most humans ever do - and WHY He did so, are especially powerful to consider. yes my friend, imo, so much more important than the how ! i thank God for the why each and every day and, if pressed to it could help explain, (som...

Mary's sinlessness was allowing God to remain who He is and not immerse Himself in sin ... as the "bearer" of Him who is with us, and presented Him with a pure "ark" for his earthly dwelling... does this help ?

rickd
So, you don't see a distinction. If there's none, then why did the Catholic Church change the translation of Theotokos from God bearer, to Mother of God?

sorry bud, above my paygrade. maybe Bybs can help. God bearer does seem a bit impersonal compared to mom.

Storyteller wrote: But Jesus was sinless, because He is God. rickD Yes. That's why Mary's sinlessness is not necessary. Mary's sinlessness is not in conjunction with God's. Mary's sinlessness was allowing God to remain who He is and not immerse Himself in sin ... the one thing in all the universe G...

story: But He did experience everything. As a human. Why would He leave out sin? before Christ was human He had to know of sin, why did the Father send him in the first place if not for the express condemnation of sin ? why would He have sent the Christ if He wasn't alrteady aware of sin and it's c...

story: Is it possible to hate something you do not know? God hates sin. Is it possible He knows sin through Mary? If only original sin? How can God know sin, how we feel if He doesnt somehow, experience it? Is it possible He knows sin through Mary? If only original sin? not imo, he took the possibi...

Simple Definition of bearer
: a person who bears or carries something

9 months of carrying God in her womb ... = "Mother of God" and "God bearer"

story: Are you saying because God is God, He couldn't have been borne to a sinful woman? That Mary was sinless because she bore God, or did God choose her because she was sinless? Are you saying because God is God, He couldn't have been borne to a sinful woman? ... yes That Mary was sinless because...

Storyteller started a new thread here. We've been discussing this subject, if you want to join the party. thanks rick, too tired to stay last night. here's what i wrote to you in the other thread. es: i hope you can see, imo Jesus is God, My Lord, My Savior, My Prince of Peace, my ...on and on, but...

take a look at this. a very small sampling of verse, if you think just because God is capable, and he has to work to your likings, not his own ... and you need bible verses to help you see this ... http://www.journal33.org/godworld/html/godhates.htm it is, imo, ridiculous to think God would give His...