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- Sat Jul 14, 2012 12:01 pm
- Forum: The Bible and Scripture
- Topic: 2 Peter 3:9
- Replies: 106
- Views: 22954
Re: 2 Peter 3:9
Faith when I get on a plane in the pilot and the plane is NOT the same as the faith I put in Christ. So yes, to ME, there is a difference. Is it different? I can see that the object is different. You are not trusting the pilot to save you from your sins. You are trusting him to fly you safely to a ...
- Sat Jul 14, 2012 11:51 am
- Forum: Philosophical Discussions
- Topic: Common Consent Argument for Theism
- Replies: 19
- Views: 6982
Re: Common Consent Argument for Theism
So if 80% of people said A, you feel it would be equally or more reasonable to pick B, C, or D? That's a very tough sell. That's like saying that four out of five witnesses saying that Suspect A is the murderer doesn't make it any more likely that Suspect A is actually the murderer. Provided none o...
- Sat Jul 14, 2012 11:23 am
- Forum: Philosophical Discussions
- Topic: Common Consent Argument for Theism
- Replies: 19
- Views: 6982
Re: Common Consent Argument for Theism
So if 80% of people said A, you feel it would be equally or more reasonable to pick B, C, or D? That's a very tough sell. That's like saying that four out of five witnesses saying that Suspect A is the murderer doesn't make it any more likely that Suspect A is actually the murderer. I didn't say tha...
- Sat Jul 14, 2012 10:51 am
- Forum: Philosophical Discussions
- Topic: Common Consent Argument for Theism
- Replies: 19
- Views: 6982
Re: Common Consent Argument for Theism
The "should" part is really incidental, it was assumed that everyone would want to go down the "good" path (or in my example, win money). In real life, the question is trying to determine the veracity of the claim "God exists". I suppose the argument makes the "ass...
- Sat Jul 14, 2012 9:15 am
- Forum: Questions for Christians
- Topic: Is GOD making it impossible for some to believe?? =,<
- Replies: 89
- Views: 24047
Re: Is GOD making it impossible for some to believe?? =,<
But Calvinism states that those separated from God for eternity will be so only because of ONE ultimate reason - because God chose to separate them from Himself, not because of anything they have done - because He made this decision FOR THEM, and did so BEFORE they had even been born or sinned even...
- Sat Jul 14, 2012 8:20 am
- Forum: Philosophical Discussions
- Topic: Common Consent Argument for Theism
- Replies: 19
- Views: 6982
Re: Common Consent Argument for Theism
Well it is an argument for theism only. Its an epistemological argument, are we warranted to trust other people and their claims. If it were true that there were no evidence either way (obviously there is other evidence and I happen to think it all points toward theism anyway), this argument makes a...
- Sat Jul 14, 2012 7:54 am
- Forum: The Bible and Scripture
- Topic: New Testament Papyrus Website!
- Replies: 5
- Views: 2646
Re: New Testament Papyrus Website!
Looks cool to me.
- Sat Jul 14, 2012 7:33 am
- Forum: The Bible and Scripture
- Topic: 2 Peter 3:9
- Replies: 106
- Views: 22954
Re: 2 Peter 3:9
Maybe this will help- http://www.preceptaustin.org/ephesians_28-9.htm Its a word by word breakdown with quotes from multiple theologians. The Calvinist/Arminian/whatever interpretation of that specific portion doesn't vary as much as you might think, although you can see the conflict in what they be...
- Sat Jul 14, 2012 7:24 am
- Forum: Philosophical Discussions
- Topic: Common Consent Argument for Theism
- Replies: 19
- Views: 6982
Common Consent Argument for Theism
Credit to prosblogion (group blog of some philosophers of religion). The argument is pretty simple- 1. Most people believe in God. 2. Therefore, God exists. I know at first blush most would dismiss this as a fallacious appeal to the masses (argumentum ad populum), but I'm not so sure. Its a defeasib...
- Sat Jul 14, 2012 5:49 am
- Forum: The Bible and Scripture
- Topic: 2 Peter 3:9
- Replies: 106
- Views: 22954
Re: 2 Peter 3:9
The majority of non-Calvinists would argue that "it" refers to salvation (and many Calvinists as well, if I remember correctly that was actually Calvin's reading), but that's a bit of a controversial one. I agree that "it" or "that" refers to salvation as a whole (becau...
- Fri Jul 13, 2012 8:08 pm
- Forum: Questions for Christians
- Topic: Is GOD making it impossible for some to believe?? =,<
- Replies: 89
- Views: 24047
Re: Is GOD making it impossible for some to believe?? =,<
But Calvinists do believe that God desires all repent. Yeah, sure they do. And according to the Five Points , we can see how He so well made sure that was even possible. :shakehead: Truly, that statement is the equivalent of calling black, white! :shakehead: No wonder you have trouble with these co...
- Fri Jul 13, 2012 5:41 pm
- Forum: General Discussion & Introductions
- Topic: What are you reading?
- Replies: 32
- Views: 11380
Re: What are you reading?
Also getting Orthodoxy and The Man Who Was Thursday: A Nightmare, both by Chesterton. Haven't read Chesterton, but Lewis quotes him a lot. Is he good? I guess I'm going to find out. I've read a lot of his quotes (which are good food for thought and/or very funny/clever) and some articles, but I've ...
- Fri Jul 13, 2012 1:16 pm
- Forum: General Discussion & Introductions
- Topic: What are you reading?
- Replies: 32
- Views: 11380
Re: What are you reading?
Also getting Orthodoxy and The Man Who Was Thursday: A Nightmare, both by Chesterton.
- Fri Jul 13, 2012 12:51 pm
- Forum: The Bible and Scripture
- Topic: 2 Peter 3:9
- Replies: 106
- Views: 22954
Re: 2 Peter 3:9
Finally, I'd point out that I agree with you that intellectual assent is not the same thing as faith. In fact, the Greek language had a word for intellectual assent ( peitho Well that's what I'm saying, that (at least for many Calvinists) they aren't talking about different kinds/types of faiths li...
- Fri Jul 13, 2012 12:19 pm
- Forum: Questions for Christians
- Topic: Is GOD making it impossible for some to believe?? =,<
- Replies: 89
- Views: 24047
Re: Is GOD making it impossible for some to believe?? =,<
Oh I definitely do.