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by Blob
Sat Sep 17, 2005 1:43 am
Forum: God and Science
Topic: Irreducible Complexity
Replies: 55
Views: 12501

Oh dear. You seem to be telling me to go away.

Fine, though that isn't a very good impression of christians that you have left me with.

Goodbye everyone.
by Blob
Sat Sep 17, 2005 1:35 am
Forum: God and Science
Topic: Human Devolution?
Replies: 55
Views: 10086

one who says there isn't a divine designer has issues. There isn't a divine designer. :wink: Have you researched ALL the evidence of any kind for the existence of God? It was a joke. I even put a wink emoticon. This is because I am not sure - maybe I am wrong and there is a god. ORIGINAL STATEMENT ...
by Blob
Sat Sep 17, 2005 1:24 am
Forum: God and Science
Topic: Human Devolution?
Replies: 55
Views: 10086

If some skeptic here actually knows of a way that E-V-E-R-Y-T-H-I-N-G can come from NOTHING, please prove it. I don't know and I can't prove it. But I did air some ideas to which I was disappointed to see you didn't respond to in this post amongst others... I wrote: --------------------------------...
by Blob
Sat Sep 17, 2005 1:18 am
Forum: God and Science
Topic: Irreducible Complexity
Replies: 55
Views: 12501

Out of interest are there any professional practising or retired biological scientists posting here? I would rather have the skeptic remove his/her sheeps clothing to reveal the goat that he/she really is, meaning be who you really are and don't act all nice for a show, or to prevent from being bann...
by Blob
Sat Sep 17, 2005 1:08 am
Forum: God and Science
Topic: Human Devolution?
Replies: 55
Views: 10086

Thinker wrote:one who says there isn't a divine designer has issues.
There isn't a divine designer. :wink:
by Blob
Fri Sep 16, 2005 3:51 pm
Forum: God and Science
Topic: Human Devolution?
Replies: 55
Views: 10086

I was just correcting your perception of what Behe actually argues. It's just that I've read a sprinkling of "Behe was wrong because of this and this..." when what the person says has nothing to do with what Behe says. I understand your frustration but I have not tried to misrepresent anyone here. ...
by Blob
Fri Sep 16, 2005 3:22 pm
Forum: God and Science
Topic: Human Devolution?
Replies: 55
Views: 10086

Ah, you don't get it still, irreducible complexity is an argument on a microscopic level-on the level of cellular machinery. And whilst I'm feeling I have a genuine greivance with how people are repsonding to my very polite and all-ears, positive attitude I take issue with "you don't get it". No on...
by Blob
Fri Sep 16, 2005 3:08 pm
Forum: God and Science
Topic: Human Devolution?
Replies: 55
Views: 10086

I find it rather unfair that people home in on a specific and highly technical example that they are well read up on. I'm newish to this whole area of discussion and don't see why we can't discuss things a non-expert know about in plain english - like the heart or brain or whatever. If people are co...
by Blob
Fri Sep 16, 2005 2:52 pm
Forum: God and Science
Topic: Human Devolution?
Replies: 55
Views: 10086

Could you please give a specific example of a a biological system - let's say an organ rather than an organism for clear focus - that you consider irreducibly complex so that we can take this enlightening discussion forward in a productive manner? How about a Flagellum (sp?) Ah you picked a good on...
by Blob
Fri Sep 16, 2005 2:51 pm
Forum: God and Science
Topic: Human Devolution?
Replies: 55
Views: 10086

Ah, you don't get it still, irreducible complexity is an argument on a microscopic level-on the level of cellular machinery. If you zoom out to an organism, everything gets simpler because the complexities are hidden within the cell. OK, some examples... Flagellum Cilia Blood Clotting Cascade The e...
by Blob
Fri Sep 16, 2005 2:47 pm
Forum: God and Science
Topic: Human Devolution?
Replies: 55
Views: 10086

Could you please give a specific example of a a biological system - let's say an organ rather than an organism for clear focus - that you consider irreducibly complex so that we can take this enlightening discussion forward in a productive manner? How about a Flagellum (sp?) Er... :shock: ...I am n...
by Blob
Fri Sep 16, 2005 2:40 pm
Forum: God and Science
Topic: Human Devolution?
Replies: 55
Views: 10086

Uh, it should be common knowledge that the information to engineer the machines was in the DNA of your zygote... Yes that is what I have been saying, albeit using biological terms rather than your preferred informal terms "information" and "engineer" and "machines". The DNA contains the genotype. C...
by Blob
Fri Sep 16, 2005 2:28 pm
Forum: God and Science
Topic: Human Devolution?
Replies: 55
Views: 10086

Ok, you added a bit as I composed my reply. but in your argument, all the irreducibly complex machinery already exists. ? Sorry I don't understand what you mean. Perhaps I have addressed this in the reply I just made(?) Behe argues that no mechanism could have evolved any of these machines-for they ...
by Blob
Fri Sep 16, 2005 2:22 pm
Forum: God and Science
Topic: Human Devolution?
Replies: 55
Views: 10086

Hi again AttentionKMartShoppers. (I know K mart is a shop in america so I guess your screename is an overly familiar phrase to your ears. lol - I like that.) In a sense, you are right-if it were not for your mother supplying you with nutrition and your other needs, you would not have lasted long as ...
by Blob
Fri Sep 16, 2005 2:10 pm
Forum: God and Science
Topic: Human Devolution?
Replies: 55
Views: 10086

Perhaps I can enlighten you Blob Irreducible complexity is the idea that all the parts of an organ work in such concert, that if one were to remove one part, that the entire organ would cease to function. So in such a system how does the entire organ come into existance gradually? There must be a d...