Evidence for God from Science

To be honest, I feel Universal Reconciliationists are happy to point out verses here and there that on first glance appear to support their beliefs, but they ironically do not take into consideration how to reconcile them with a full exposition of Scripture. We must not take a hacked up approach to...

I hope you get a chance to read the article: http://www.mercifultruth.com/doesgodhate.html God Bless. I can fully appreciate that article. It does not follow however that just because God loves all, that all are reconciled. In fact, I'd argue it is precisely because God loves all, that He does not ...

Hi Catherine, always good to hear from you even though we disagree it is still a pleasure to write to you and discuss these kinds of issues. I appreciate your civility in these matters and look forward to engaging you in our discussion! I am a bit under the weather as they say (a little ill at the ...

Hi B.W, thanks for your feedback. You make some interesting points. It's probably easier if I comment directly after the points you make. This helps my memory, as I forget what I want to say very quickly. :ebiggrin: Hi Catherine your conclusion presents a logical contradiction as it presents that th...

Kurieuo, You also make some good points and I must say that the case for universal salvation does not seem to be supported by scripture as much as limited salvation is. I don't think I'll get to the bottom of all this and so it remains for me to trust that God is in control and knows what He is doin...

Without getting into the whole premise of this thread, I just wanted to comment on your analogy of the drowning person here and take it even one step further as this is how I've always thought about it. The man with the ring (I presume you mean God here) is not simply standing there waiting for som...

I was just making a bacon butty and pondering on the 'drowning' analogy and it struck me; the forgiveness that is 'out there' is like someone standing on the edge of the water with a rubber ring. They won't throw it to the drowning person until the person asks them to throw it. (I know we probably d...

Jac, I've not read the article you've posted yet, but I will do. Thank you. Kurieuo, I can 'see' what you are saying, and how you are distinguishing between universal reconciliaton which boils down to individual 'choices' (so it's more of a principle) and universal really meaning universal and there...

Kurieuo, that was a very interesting article you posted. Thank you. From your comments and the article you quoted, it is being argued that 'forgiveness' alone, is not sufficient to produce or result in reconciliation (ie salvation). I think the distinction between forgiveness and reconciliation (if ...

Thanks B.W for those particular quotes. They will surely be important as this topic develops.

I've started this thread, in order to discuss some issues raised in the 'Sabbath Keeping' thread which had gone 'off topic'. In particular to discuss some issues that Kurieuo drew my attention to in this older post: http://discussions.godandscience.org/viewtopic.php?f=22&t=32591&p=48129#p481...

Catherine, if this is a topic that interests you, then you might be interested to read over the following thread: Saved by grace alone through faith alone in Christ alone. Sorry Catherine - wrong thread there. I just read over it, and it isn't the one I thought it was. You might find it interesting...

So. When you speak of salvation by grace apart from works you mean something other than full reliance by faith upon the finished work of Christ for salvation. No. Salvation is not "the reward". If it were, it would mean we'd done something to earn or merit it, and it would no longer be gr...

Something that has always struck me about 'faith versus works etc', is from Jesus Himself: when Jesus spoke about the Judgment Day, in all the accounts, He stresses the same criteria ie people's actions, rather than their beliefs . It's what people do that gains them entrance into the Kingdom. Jesus...

Canuckster, you said ''In the NT when it speaks of the greatest commandments, the 10 are not even quoted then but rather the essence of what God is going to write on the hearts of men through the new covenant.'' The greatest commandment: 'You must love the Lord your God with your whole heart, soul a...