Evidence for God from Science

The malaria case shows that six non-beneficial coordinated mutations exceeds the capability of the number of life forms that have ever existed on this plan. Do you agree? Absolutely :) If you agree that is what I think is important in Issue1 In your response you argue like this (assuming you agree)...

Happy New Year to you too! You discuss Issue 1 so let’s concentrate on that. I wrote: “Issue 1. The malaria case. You mention often the malaria case where two non-beneficial mutations is needed to provide resistance to chloroquine. From that you (following Behe) argue that if four or more non-benefi...

As I got some time to read our discussion from the beginning it seem that we perhaps are coming close to a point where it’s of no use continuing the discussion. It has been interesting and I have learnt a lot, especially on E coli and Lenski’s experiment. We have had some problems to understand each...

In this 8 minute episode of Science Uprising , Michael Behe discusses how the observed behavior of mutations fails to invent https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ivgQFIST1g As you all know I'm against evolution but sometimes it is hard to explain why evolution is a myth.Well I now I am much better at e...

Sorry, I don’t follow you argument and what empirically observed behaviour you refer to. The empirically observed behavior I am referring to is... 1. In the malaria example, the 2 coordinated mutations (substitutions) that provide resistance to chloroquine occurs at an exponential rate as opposed t...

There is much to discuss in your last post but I have to concentrate on the last part. The rest is really important but I will wait discussing that until later. Do you say that the observed rate of beneficial mutations for all eukaryotes (e.g. mamals) are slower than rate of beneficial mutations in ...

I am unaware of any study where the empirically observed mutation rate is consistent with the evolution rate (especially in the higher animals) required for the change we see in the fossil record or the DNA that we see in life today. If you have any empirically observed data to the contrary, I woul...

What’s is of interest is the rate of beneficial mutations. The rate of beneficial mutations in most eukaryotes (e.g. plants and mammals) is higher than at least in E coli. E coli hasn’t evolved much during it’s existence one hundred+ millions of years. Mammals has evolved much since the extinction ...

The mutation rate for eukaryotes is slower than the mutation rate for bacteria. The mutation rate for eukaryotes is slower than the mutation rate for parasites (such as the malaria parasite). ==> since the observed mutation rate for eukaryotes is slower than that of bacteria, then evolution is also...

I have no specific reference but it is well known that differences in DNA is used as a measure of time since two species developed in separate directions. That requires a rough estimate of mutation speed. You are referring to the "presumed" rate of evolution based on reverse engineering t...

And since the overwhelming majority of beneficial mutations that do occur in nature and in the lab degrade genetic information I think it is even more "wrong" to expect a high rate of beneficial mutations to add genetic information. That seems reasonably as long as you talk about Lemski’s...

Let me be very explicit... I do not expect a high rate of mutations in either the lab or in nature I do not expect a high rate of beneficial mutations in either the lab or in nature Therefore ==> I think it is "wrong" to expect a high level of beneficial mutations in either the lab or in ...

Let me be very explicit... I do not expect a high rate of mutations in either the lab or in nature I do not expect a high rate of beneficial mutations in either the lab or in nature Therefore ==> I think it is "wrong" to expect a high level of beneficial mutations in either the lab or in ...

#54 quote=DBowling post_id=252852 time=1633450017 user_id=10713] The experiment have lasted only 30 years and the deceleration has been clearly visible, so much that it can related to a power law. From that follows that in the next million or even thousand year the increase will become very low, pr...

#54 quote=DBowling post_id=252852 time=1633450017 user_id=10713] The experiment have lasted only 30 years and the deceleration has been clearly visible, so much that it can related to a power law. From that follows that in the next million or even thousand year the increase will become very low, pro...