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by SoCalExile
Thu Jul 13, 2017 8:17 am
Forum: Questions for Christians
Topic: Were the Nephilim and the Sumerian mythical kings somehow related?
Replies: 558
Views: 119065

Re: Were the Nephilim and the Sumerian mythical kings somehow related?

Average height for a man in the ANE ( Ancient Near east) was about 65" ( 5'-5") so a person at 6'-6" for example, would be a giant, even more so a 7ft'er. We don't use the term anymore but a tall pro basketball player would be considered a giant ( someone far above average height). W...
by SoCalExile
Thu Jul 13, 2017 8:12 am
Forum: Questions for Christians
Topic: Were the Nephilim and the Sumerian mythical kings somehow related?
Replies: 558
Views: 119065

Re: Were the Nephilim and the Sumerian mythical kings somehow related?

Historically speaking, The sons of God were viewed and had always been understood to be, divine beings of some sort. They were never thought to have been human until much much later. Jesus and the Apostles disagree: Mat 5:9 Blessed are the peacemakers, For they shall be called sons of God. Luk 20:3...
by SoCalExile
Thu Jul 13, 2017 12:57 am
Forum: Questions for Christians
Topic: Were the Nephilim and the Sumerian mythical kings somehow related?
Replies: 558
Views: 119065

Re: Were the Nephilim and the Sumerian mythical kings somehow related?

Thanks again for showing me to be right because anybody that reads these passages in Jude will clearly understand that the angels went after strange flesh. I still think you overlook that if you reject this interpretation then you have no biblical answer for many false god's that were worshipped as...
by SoCalExile
Wed Jul 12, 2017 6:46 pm
Forum: Questions for Christians
Topic: Were the Nephilim and the Sumerian mythical kings somehow related?
Replies: 558
Views: 119065

Re: Were the Nephilim and the Sumerian mythical kings somehow related?

Here's R.C. Sproul Jr.'s take on nephilim: http://www.ligonier.org/blog/who-are-sons-god-and-daughters-men-genesis-6/ to be fair, RC Sproul can't get the gospel right so.... Also, it doesn't necessarily mean that there wasn't intermarrying before. There could have been descendants of Cain that were...
by SoCalExile
Wed Jul 12, 2017 6:44 pm
Forum: Questions for Christians
Topic: Were the Nephilim and the Sumerian mythical kings somehow related?
Replies: 558
Views: 119065

Re: Were the Nephilim and the Sumerian mythical kings somehow related?

The history of Sethite theory: The Sethite theory basically states that in Genesis chapter six that Seth line was pure and the rest of Cain were not. The Sons of God meant human beings and not angelic host. Does it stand up today - no - it is a recent addition and its history is traced back in the ...
by SoCalExile
Wed Jul 12, 2017 6:40 pm
Forum: Questions for Christians
Topic: Were the Nephilim and the Sumerian mythical kings somehow related?
Replies: 558
Views: 119065

Re: Were the Nephilim and the Sumerian mythical kings somehow related?

Interesting subject since I am in process of writing a book on this topic... My hypothesis contends that the fallen angels came and altered DNA and artificially impregnated women with corrupted DNA. In other words, they did not have sex with women. The Ancient Hebrew vocabulary of the Torah had rou...
by SoCalExile
Wed Jul 12, 2017 6:30 pm
Forum: Questions for Christians
Topic: Were the Nephilim and the Sumerian mythical kings somehow related?
Replies: 558
Views: 119065

Re: Were the Nephilim and the Sumerian mythical kings somehow related?

When it says you shall die like men it is talking about at judgment.Nobody thinks that angels die like men do but they will after judgment. That's reading into it....well the whole doctrine is reading into it. No we are actually going by what the bible says it is you that could'nt even read what Ju...
by SoCalExile
Wed Jul 12, 2017 6:26 pm
Forum: Questions for Christians
Topic: Were the Nephilim and the Sumerian mythical kings somehow related?
Replies: 558
Views: 119065

Re: Were the Nephilim and the Sumerian mythical kings somehow related?

When it says you shall die like men it is talking about at judgment.Nobody thinks that angels die like men do but they will after judgment. I disagree. And repeating the same argument doesn't make it true. You guys are trying to proof-text, and with one word you are trying to build an entire theolo...
by SoCalExile
Wed Jul 12, 2017 9:21 am
Forum: Questions for Christians
Topic: Were the Nephilim and the Sumerian mythical kings somehow related?
Replies: 558
Views: 119065

Re: Were the Nephilim and the Sumerian mythical kings somehow related?

abelcainsbrother wrote:
When it says you shall die like men it is talking about at judgment.Nobody thinks that angels die like men do but they will after judgment.
That's reading into it....well the whole doctrine is reading into it.
by SoCalExile
Wed Jul 12, 2017 8:21 am
Forum: Christian Theology
Topic: Is there solid evidence that it was God who wrestled with Jacob?
Replies: 8
Views: 3693

Re: Is there solid evidence that it was God who wrestled with Jacob?

In Hebrew culture, to name something is to have dominion over it.

Also, "angel" in Hebrew (malach) literally means "messenger" and refers to role rather than origin; thus, "The Messenger of the Lord" is in reality the eternal Christ revealing Himself in the OT.
by SoCalExile
Wed Jul 12, 2017 8:02 am
Forum: Questions for Christians
Topic: Were the Nephilim and the Sumerian mythical kings somehow related?
Replies: 558
Views: 119065

Re: Were the Nephilim and the Sumerian mythical kings somehow related?

On a side note, Michael Heiser (the popularizer of the Divine Council theory) thinks prophecy is so hard to understand, that you shouldn't "waste your time" with it. Apparently God disagrees. What's worse is he goes before gullible college kids and makes the worst logical arguments I have ...
by SoCalExile
Wed Jul 12, 2017 7:59 am
Forum: Questions for Christians
Topic: Were the Nephilim and the Sumerian mythical kings somehow related?
Replies: 558
Views: 119065

Re: Were the Nephilim and the Sumerian mythical kings somehow related?

RickD wrote:
SoCal,

Please be nice to PaulS. It's bad enough that he's wrong in this thread, you don't need to attack him. :mrgreen:
What's that about sticks and heinies?
by SoCalExile
Wed Jul 12, 2017 7:58 am
Forum: General Discussion & Introductions
Topic: Church for introverts
Replies: 17
Views: 6513

Re: Church for introverts

RickD wrote: might want to have someone pull that stick out of your heinie.
right, countering scripture with ad hominems. Good job.
by SoCalExile
Wed Jul 12, 2017 7:45 am
Forum: Questions for Christians
Topic: Were the Nephilim and the Sumerian mythical kings somehow related?
Replies: 558
Views: 119065

Re: Were the Nephilim and the Sumerian mythical kings somehow related?

Yes, knock off the appeals to authority, and listen to PaulSacramento, because he's taken theology classes. Not sure if you are being fictitious or not Rick but I do NOT profess to be an authority simply because of I have my Masters. I haven't even quote any scholar or linked any article. I have si...
by SoCalExile
Wed Jul 12, 2017 7:44 am
Forum: Questions for Christians
Topic: Were the Nephilim and the Sumerian mythical kings somehow related?
Replies: 558
Views: 119065

Re: Were the Nephilim and the Sumerian mythical kings somehow related?

Your argument (and Heiser's, the clown) is refuted by your own citation: Psalm 82:7: 7 But you shall die like men, And fall like one of the princes.” Eternal beings do not die. Also, the footnotes should read "Psalm 82:1 Hebrew elohim, mighty ones; that is, the judges Psalm 82:6 Hebrew elohim,...