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by Nils
Mon Oct 21, 2019 1:48 am
Forum: Questions for Christians
Topic: Creation of information
Replies: 165
Views: 55248

Re: Creation of information

Nils: If new information can be created by computers there is no reason why it couldn’t be created by biological evolution and this is precisely what the evolution theory assumes. Information isn’t created by intelligences alone. So, he's comparing intentionally crafted tools (computers), in which ...
by Nils
Mon Oct 21, 2019 1:41 am
Forum: Questions for Christians
Topic: Creation of information
Replies: 165
Views: 55248

Re: Creation of information

nils wrote: If new information can be created by computers there is no reason why it couldn’t be created by biological evolution and this is precisely what the evolution theory assumes. Information isn’t created by intelligences alone. Do you even realize what you have said here? Yes, do you? Nils
by Nils
Mon Oct 21, 2019 1:35 am
Forum: Questions for Christians
Topic: Creation of information
Replies: 165
Views: 55248

Re: Creation of information

If new information can be created by computers there is no reason why it couldn’t be created by biological evolution What gives computers the capability to create new information? Are you claiming that a random series of 1s and 0s is capable of generating a computer program that can create new info...
by Nils
Mon Oct 21, 2019 1:02 am
Forum: Questions for Christians
Topic: Creation of information
Replies: 165
Views: 55248

Re: Creation of information

An issue that I missed to bring up is the terminology, what to call the process that brings forth information. I use the word "create" but the words "find" or "generate" may be more adequate. In the labyrinth example it can be said the information about the path to the middle is implicit and when yo...
by Nils
Sun Oct 20, 2019 12:51 am
Forum: Questions for Christians
Topic: Creation of information
Replies: 165
Views: 55248

Creation of information

In a video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y6j8Yp6s6E8 Behe discusses the behaviour of Darwinian evolution, and he says that observed beneficial mutations do not involve adding information to DNA, instead observed beneficial mutations involve some replacements but mostly deletions. Which speaks to t...
by Nils
Sat Oct 19, 2019 1:42 pm
Forum: Questioning Non-belief
Topic: Atheist question
Replies: 244
Views: 67223

Re: Atheist question

So using simple math number of steps X average population required to bridge each step = total population required to bridge all the steps or 10^7 X 10^10 = 10^17 From where did you get this formula? Nils I didn't need to get it from anywhere... it is straightforward multiplication. I was curious a...
by Nils
Thu Oct 17, 2019 7:11 pm
Forum: Questioning Non-belief
Topic: Atheist question
Replies: 244
Views: 67223

Re: Atheist question

DBowling wrote:
Thu Oct 17, 2019 4:36 am
So using simple math
number of steps X average population required to bridge each step = total population required to bridge all the steps
or
10^7 X 10^10 = 10^17
From where did you get this formula?
Nils
by Nils
Thu Oct 17, 2019 12:34 am
Forum: Questioning Non-belief
Topic: Atheist question
Replies: 244
Views: 67223

Re: Atheist question

The whole idea that it is in some way possible to find the probability of evolution from chimpanzees to humans is fantastic. That's not what I was doing. I was using the genetic difference between humans and chimpanzees to demonstrate that the gap between humans and our closest common ancestor cann...
by Nils
Sat Oct 12, 2019 4:09 am
Forum: Questioning Non-belief
Topic: Atheist question
Replies: 244
Views: 67223

Re: Atheist question

Actually... even if we assume small single mutation steps I think we can still use some rough math to demonstrate that random mutation is incapable of producing the changes that we see in the fossil record and the DNA of life today. As an example, lets look at the genetic difference between humans ...
by Nils
Fri Oct 11, 2019 6:40 am
Forum: Questioning Non-belief
Topic: Atheist question
Replies: 244
Views: 67223

Re: Atheist question

Actually... even if we assume small single mutation steps I think we can still use some rough math to demonstrate that random mutation is incapable of producing the changes that we see in the fossil record and the DNA of life today. As an example, lets look at the genetic difference between humans ...
by Nils
Fri Oct 11, 2019 6:35 am
Forum: Questioning Non-belief
Topic: Atheist question
Replies: 244
Views: 67223

Re: Atheist question

I don't believe Behe, Meyer, and Axe are dismissing an established theory. They are questioning one part of a theory that has not been empirically established. And the specific part that has not been empirically established is the alleged ability of "random" mutation to infuse new information into ...
by Nils
Thu Oct 10, 2019 11:32 am
Forum: Questioning Non-belief
Topic: Atheist question
Replies: 244
Views: 67223

Re: Atheist question

You misunderstand me completely. My claim above isn’t about Axe’s article. My claim is a general claim that one (or a few) single article isn’t enough to dismiss an established theory. I don't believe Behe, Meyer, and Axe are dismissing an established theory. They are questioning one part of a theo...
by Nils
Wed Oct 09, 2019 1:53 pm
Forum: Questioning Non-belief
Topic: Atheist question
Replies: 244
Views: 67223

Re: Atheist question

Sorry DB, for late response. To try to structure the debate: 1. The main thing I want to discuss is Meyers argument in the clip https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7c9PaZzsqEg. He says that Axe’s article shows that random mutations isn’t enough to move from one functional protein to another and therefor...
by Nils
Mon Sep 30, 2019 1:09 pm
Forum: Questioning Non-belief
Topic: Atheist question
Replies: 244
Views: 67223

Re: Atheist question

But I didn't see anything in your link that rebutted the following from Gerlenter's article. What proportion of these many polypeptides are useful proteins? Douglas Axe did a series of experiments to estimate how many 150-long chains are capable of stable folds—of reaching the final step in the pro...
by Nils
Sat Sep 28, 2019 1:14 am
Forum: Questioning Non-belief
Topic: Atheist question
Replies: 244
Views: 67223

Re: Atheist question

Re #211 Here is an interesting one, not from Meyer: https://www.claremont.org/crb/article/giving-up-darwin/ As I wrote in #202: "Another source of information is a current article: https://quillette.com/2019/09/09/david- ... ng-darwin/ by Jerry A. Coyne where he discusses https://www.claremont.org/c...