Evidence for God from Science

Oh I agree with you totally Rick. All I'm saying is that this does not align with absolute-unconditional-no-matter-what kind of assurance. I don't believe in absolute-unconditional-no-matter-what kind of assurance, so there is no issue. I believe in absolute assurance for the true child of God, onl...

Byblos wrote: My question to you is, what of the true believer that apostatizes? Are you saying that's impossible to happen or are you saying he will prove he never was a true believer? I'm saying either 1) he was never a true believer or 2) he is a true believer who has fallen away, but is still s...

Rick, I don't know how to make myself any clearer than I already have. At this point, you seem to be getting angry and frustrated, so I'm content to let this go. Suffice it to say that I deeply disagree with about half of what you are saying, and I find it very dangerous. But such is the nature of ...

Fine I will do it tonight seeing I have a bye for basketball, I will keep you posted. If any Y.E.C's have a rebuttal please feel free to post. Dan There's basketball in Australia? I thought it was called "netball". :mrgreen: Maybe you like to wear skirts but not me. ;) I'm Scottish. They'...

RickD wrote:I disagree. And maybe it's semantics, but I would have to believe the HS is witnessing to me, the things of God, in order for me to listen to His prompting. If I don't believe he exists, why would I listen to Him? I don't believe the HS is witnessing to me, and I listen to His prompting...

Danieltwotwenty wrote:Fine I will do it tonight seeing I have a bye for basketball, I will keep you posted.

If any Y.E.C's have a rebuttal please feel free to post.



Dan

There's basketball in Australia? I thought it was called "netball".

But the point is if animals survived off the Ark that would contradict what the Bible says, If you have the view point that it was global. Insert Y.E.C comment here :ebiggrin: Thanks for the correction; i missed that aspect of the question. As penance, i listened to Ken Ham http://blogs.answersinge...

Byblos wrote: My question to you is, what of the true believer that apostatizes? Are you saying that's impossible to happen or are you saying he will prove he never was a true believer? I'm saying either 1) he was never a true believer or 2) he is a true believer who has fallen away, but is still sa...

Let's say, for instance, you are talking to someone who clearly does not believe the Gospel. They believe that the reason they are going to heaven is because they have been a good person. Suppose you give them a perfectly reasonable argument from Scripture as to why they're holding a false Gospel. ...

I disagree. And maybe it's semantics, but I would have to believe the HS is witnessing to me, the things of God, in order for me to listen to His prompting. If I don't believe he exists, why would I listen to Him? So if we sin or do wrong, this means we do not have the HS? See Romans 4:9-12 and Gal...

Jac3510 wrote: Belief in the inner witness of the HS has nothing to do with whether or not a person will listen to the prompting of the HS I disagree. And maybe it's semantics, but I would have to believe the HS is witnessing to me, the things of God, in order for me to listen to His prompting. If I...

Guys, I gotta go to work. I'll address the last two posts when I can.

FL, I certainly don't like what you're implying!! :twisted: Hmmm...of all the millions of people in Jacksonville, RickD is the only one taking umbrage at my Revelation. And, may I draw attention to RickD 's clown avatar... Let the reader understand. :troll: FL, you'd better watch out! I heard the K...

From what I understand, there are certain sea creatures that only can live in fresh water, OR salt water. Not both. Now, in every global flood story I've read, the fountains of the deep opened up. Meaning, they believe water came from beneath the earth. That, according to YECs, made for a very viol...

RickD wrote:Maybe we're saying the same thing here. Of course it's God who does the saving, by His grace, through faith. Probably. But to make the distinction clear, imagine a person who really believes (e.g, John 12:42) but then does not go on to do the things we would expect to characterize the C...