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- Tue Dec 27, 2011 1:36 pm
- Forum: General Discussion & Introductions
- Topic: Happy Birthday RickD!
- Replies: 15
- Views: 4122
Re: Happy Birthday RickD!
Happy Birthday old geezer
- Tue Dec 27, 2011 1:33 pm
- Forum: Christian Theology
- Topic: Reformed Theology Discussion
- Replies: 106
- Views: 32840
Re: Reformed Theology Discussion
Danny, I'm glad that you believe that you've got double predestination figured out and no issues exist for you. The problem with your assertion of apparent absolute certainty in refuting and addressing all the issues involved is that Calvinists themselves don't agree on everything you've posted and...
- Tue Dec 27, 2011 12:53 pm
- Forum: Christian Chit-chat
- Topic: thank you, everyone
- Replies: 25
- Views: 8357
Re: thank you, everyone
I was raised Christian by my mother, but never understood it. I grew out of it in my teen years, as she had a very simple (not incorrect) faith that my strictly logically inclined brain couldn't comprehend. I had read plenty of philosophy books, articles, etc. and took a very naturalistic approach ...
- Tue Dec 27, 2011 12:21 pm
- Forum: Christian Theology
- Topic: Molinism discussion
- Replies: 174
- Views: 41927
Re: Molinism discussion
So that's my problem with it, Craig seems to be ignoring the point the compatabilists are trying to make and say that they really don't believe in free will. I just find it a bit odd. I don't know many compatabilists who are going to say that God "makes" people do wrong, he's putting word...
- Tue Dec 27, 2011 12:18 pm
- Forum: Christian Theology
- Topic: John Wesley's theology
- Replies: 422
- Views: 107885
Re: John Wesley's theology
Now, Danny, here you are personally insulting me, and you are appealing to an argument of emotion Rick, I’m not insulting you at all. I’m sorry if you think I came off that way, brother. don't blame me for your inability to comprehend You’ve admitted you cannot comprehend things in this thread. Ref...
- Tue Dec 27, 2011 11:39 am
- Forum: Christian Theology
- Topic: Molinism discussion
- Replies: 174
- Views: 41927
Re: Molinism discussion
People simply don't make choices in a vacuum and free of cultural, social, and genetic influence. Its still THEIR decision, but they have a reason for making that decision. Precisely. Remember that “middle knowledge” theory was proposed in order to reconcile the biblical fact of God’s sovereignty w...
- Tue Dec 27, 2011 11:20 am
- Forum: Christian Theology
- Topic: John Wesley's theology
- Replies: 422
- Views: 107885
Re: John Wesley's theology
Danny, let me ask you something. Is it really possible to point out errors that are seen in a doctrine,and to show how that doctrine changes the nature of God, without offending one who holds to that doctrine? I think it's time, as someone said before, to suck it up, put your big boy pants on, and ...
- Tue Dec 27, 2011 11:19 am
- Forum: Christian Theology
- Topic: Reformed Theology Discussion
- Replies: 106
- Views: 32840
Re: Reformed Theology Discussion
Then present why you think this might relate to your idea of "middle knowledge".jlay wrote:I read what you pasted in.
- Tue Dec 27, 2011 11:10 am
- Forum: Christian Theology
- Topic: Reformed Theology Discussion
- Replies: 106
- Views: 32840
Re: Reformed Theology Discussion
So it is clear that God does not “create people whom He has, by His own will, identified, and predestined specifically to spend eternity in Hell”… That is a gross caricature. God predestines the reprobate to hell in light of the fall. Does anyone else think this sounds like smuggling in middle know...
- Tue Dec 27, 2011 10:56 am
- Forum: Christian Theology
- Topic: Reformed Theology Discussion
- Replies: 106
- Views: 32840
Re: Reformed Theology Discussion
RickD, Double predestination IS precisely what Calvinism espouses and teaches. I've quoted above to demonstrate directly from Calvin's Institutes that it is EXACTLY what Calvin teaches. Far from being extreme, it is what anyone who calls themselves a Calvinist is associating themselves with if not ...
- Tue Dec 27, 2011 10:19 am
- Forum: Christian Theology
- Topic: John Wesley's theology
- Replies: 422
- Views: 107885
Re: John Wesley's theology
In view of such passages, it is legitimate to ask: "If Christ died only for the elect, how can the offer of salvation be made to all persons without some sort of insincerity, artificiality, or dishonesty being involved? Is it not improper to offer salvation to everyone if in fact Christ did no...
- Mon Dec 26, 2011 5:57 am
- Forum: Christian Theology
- Topic: Reformed Theology Discussion
- Replies: 106
- Views: 32840
Re: Reformed Theology Discussion
Ok, so I didn't really want to get into this, because this is Bart's thread. But since this has been a long-standing disagreement between him and me, I will add my small contribution here and then let him carry on. My interest is factual accuracy, as I know Bart's is too. I appreciate his hard work...
- Sun Dec 25, 2011 5:57 am
- Forum: Christian Theology
- Topic: Molinism discussion
- Replies: 174
- Views: 41927
Re: Molinism discussion
Sorry for the derailment, B.W. I think this thread is an important thread, and I'm looking forward to the discussion on Molinism. I think people should just get down to the discussion now, since we might be in danger of squabbling over definitions. We can always ask for clarification on definitions ...
- Sun Dec 25, 2011 5:37 am
- Forum: Christian Theology
- Topic: Molinism discussion
- Replies: 174
- Views: 41927
Re: Molinism discussion
Is that definition of free will free from outside influence, prior prejudice, inclination or disposition? Yes and no. Although influences play a huge part in our free will our free will is not a slave to them. And even despite these prejudices there exists the ability to choose the things on a good...
- Sun Dec 25, 2011 5:12 am
- Forum: Christian Theology
- Topic: Molinism discussion
- Replies: 174
- Views: 41927
Re: Molinism discussion
For example, if I stood up from my chair right now. Do you want to know if I stood up at my own will or if God determined that I would stand at this point in time? Is the knowledge of my action to stand up a proposition or non propositional action? Does foreknowing my action of standing mean that i...