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by Beanybag
Fri Jul 20, 2012 4:28 pm
Forum: Questions for Christians
Topic: Morality - Relative or Objective?
Replies: 16
Views: 4659

Re: Morality - Relative or Objective?

Arguing against evolution and then saying my views are sad and stretching? Natural selection IS an algorithmic process - it selects for fitness. There is no need for intelligence here. I find ID highly unscientific and unpersuasive. It seems rather clear to me how natural selection emerges in a set ...
by Beanybag
Fri Jul 20, 2012 2:46 pm
Forum: Christian Chit-chat
Topic: Anti-Christian Fiction
Replies: 3
Views: 1449

Re: Anti-Christian Fiction

I enjoyed Golden Compass as a kid, and I think even as a theist way back when. I didn't have any negative reaction. I don't believe in censorship of 'bad' ideas. If there's a criticism to be made, they can make it. That doesn't have to take away from the story or make it less enjoyable, nor does it ...
by Beanybag
Fri Jul 20, 2012 2:01 pm
Forum: Questions for Christians
Topic: Morality - Relative or Objective?
Replies: 16
Views: 4659

Re: Morality - Relative or Objective?

Whether or not that is because of evolution shaping our behavior, or whether or not it's some theological reason, that doesn't seem to matter. This presumes "Evolution" is an intelligent agent, shaping humanity to a certain end. It certainly does matter. Evolution is no such thing, and th...
by Beanybag
Fri Jul 20, 2012 1:58 pm
Forum: Christian Theology
Topic: Proof that GOD Exists
Replies: 70
Views: 24077

Re: Proof that GOD Exists

The zenith doesn't have to be physically existent or even possible to be real. This is where we get into the problem of concepts. Is the idea of the maximal society an abstraction of empirical knowledge, a platonic concept that is real in the platonic heaven, a meaningless statement that is tautolo...
by Beanybag
Fri Jul 20, 2012 1:39 pm
Forum: God and Science
Topic: Former skeptic shares glimpse of heaven
Replies: 52
Views: 11930

Re: Former skeptic shares glimpse of heaven

Lots of things bother me about this. How does she have memories about it if it was something nonphysical and separate from her body? Also, this is nothing new to near-death experiences, and if these were proof of anything, they'd be proof for every religion. Another thing that happens at death and ...
by Beanybag
Fri Jul 20, 2012 1:35 pm
Forum: Politics and World Events
Topic: The natural progression of same sex marriage
Replies: 87
Views: 25341

Re: The natural progression of same sex marriage

I was hoping to avoid this discussion until after I had read the book on this subject, but here I am. So pardon any ignorance on my part, I can't help myself. As to how the argument is made, again, it's rather easy. The question is what we know. It's all boringly analytical. If I know X, then I know...
by Beanybag
Fri Jul 20, 2012 12:28 pm
Forum: Christian Theology
Topic: Proof that GOD Exists
Replies: 70
Views: 24077

Re: Proof that GOD Exists

Beany, would you agree with me that there are such things as absolutes? Absolute whats? I generally agree with the idea of absolutes, but disagree with how much we can know. It doesn't really matter what the absolute is but as an example, you referred to subjective morality as evolving, 'improving'...
by Beanybag
Fri Jul 20, 2012 12:22 pm
Forum: Politics and World Events
Topic: The natural progression of same sex marriage
Replies: 87
Views: 25341

Re: The natural progression of same sex marriage

You assert that without hylomorphism, knowledge is impossible. Knowledge is possible, therefore hylomorphism is true. But, you can't know knowledge is impossible without assuming that hylomorphism is true, and thus, knowledge is possible. Because, the statement "knowledge is impossible" i...
by Beanybag
Fri Jul 20, 2012 12:02 pm
Forum: Christian Theology
Topic: Proof that GOD Exists
Replies: 70
Views: 24077

Re: Proof that GOD Exists

Beany, would you agree with me that there are such things as absolutes? Absolute whats? I generally agree with the idea of absolutes, but disagree with how much we can know. It doesn't really matter what the absolute is but as an example, you referred to subjective morality as evolving, 'improving'...
by Beanybag
Fri Jul 20, 2012 11:55 am
Forum: Politics and World Events
Topic: The natural progression of same sex marriage
Replies: 87
Views: 25341

Re: The natural progression of same sex marriage

I think the most modern approach seems to be borrowing the idea from logical positivism that knowledge obviously does exist, intuitively. Science clearly finds facts about the natural world and these seem objectively true across all subjective realities. While logical positivism seemed to create a ...
by Beanybag
Fri Jul 20, 2012 11:40 am
Forum: Christian Theology
Topic: Proof that GOD Exists
Replies: 70
Views: 24077

Re: Proof that GOD Exists

Byblos wrote:Beany, would you agree with me that there are such things as absolutes?
Absolute whats? I generally agree with the idea of absolutes, but disagree with how much we can know.
by Beanybag
Fri Jul 20, 2012 11:39 am
Forum: Politics and World Events
Topic: The natural progression of same sex marriage
Replies: 87
Views: 25341

Re: The natural progression of same sex marriage

1. Your view of epistemology is the dominant one today. But I think you should consider more its implication about our ability to know things in and of themselves. Let me admit right now that I haven't read any analytical works on epistemology from the last ten or twenty years, but I can tell you t...
by Beanybag
Fri Jul 20, 2012 11:30 am
Forum: Christian Theology
Topic: Proof that GOD Exists
Replies: 70
Views: 24077

Re: Proof that GOD Exists

Not so, morality seems to be self-correcting. Notice that racism, sexism, and general isms tend to be on the fall in more developed countries? A society that defines morality as what is best for a society will eventually approach that morality through a form of selection very similar to natural sele...
by Beanybag
Fri Jul 20, 2012 11:03 am
Forum: God and Science
Topic: Former skeptic shares glimpse of heaven
Replies: 52
Views: 11930

Re: Former skeptic shares glimpse of heaven

Lots of things bother me about this. How does she have memories about it if it was something nonphysical and separate from her body? Also, this is nothing new to near-death experiences, and if these were proof of anything, they'd be proof for every religion. Another thing that happens at death and a...
by Beanybag
Fri Jul 20, 2012 11:02 am
Forum: Questions for Christians
Topic: Morality - Relative or Objective?
Replies: 16
Views: 4659

Re: Morality - Relative or Objective?

Hi, sorry to bump an old thread, but I've always wondered how evolutionists and other moral relativists see how morality can grow in a universe that doesn't lean either way, so today I just googled it up and came upon this wiki page: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evolution_of_morality So, it seems t...