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by RickD
Tue Jun 22, 2021 9:20 am
Forum: Christian Theology
Topic: Can a born again Christian be unborn? OSAS
Replies: 35
Views: 18835

Re: Can a born again Christian be unborn? OSAS

DBowling wrote: From my perspective what Scripture says is more relevant than what I might consider to be plausible or implausible. From my perspective, when I speak of something consistent with scripture, I consider it plausible or implausible, precisely because it’s consistent or inconsistent wit...
by RickD
Mon Jun 21, 2021 4:36 pm
Forum: Christian Theology
Topic: Can a born again Christian be unborn? OSAS
Replies: 35
Views: 18835

Re: Can a born again Christian be unborn? OSAS

Wouldn’t that be apostasy? Do you have a Scriptural example of what you are referring to? Let me repeat this question from earlier in thread. It would help my understanding of your position if you would provide a Scriptural example that supports your understanding of 'apostacy'. The Greek word apos...
by RickD
Mon Jun 21, 2021 4:22 pm
Forum: Resources & Reviews
Topic: Salvation Equation? Jesus Coming back in 2028?
Replies: 23
Views: 26678

Re: Salvation Equation? Jesus Coming back in 2028?

I'm now really starting to doubt this 2028 date, that means tribulation starts this September, or 2024.5, and the mark of the beast released and enforced before 2028, I'm sorry, I just don't see that happening now. What I think is going to happen is, eventually sometime the antichrist will come, en...
by RickD
Thu Jun 17, 2021 6:12 pm
Forum: Christian Theology
Topic: Can a born again Christian be unborn? OSAS
Replies: 35
Views: 18835

Re: Can a born again Christian be unborn? OSAS

DBowling wrote: I am unaware of any Scripture that supports the premise that a person who is truly born again can stop believing in Jesus. Wouldn’t that be apostasy? Do you have a Scriptural example of what you are referring to? Let me repeat this question from earlier in thread. It would help my u...
by RickD
Thu Jun 17, 2021 5:35 pm
Forum: Christian Theology
Topic: Can a born again Christian be unborn? OSAS
Replies: 35
Views: 18835

Re: Can a born again Christian be unborn? OSAS

And if I understand you correctly, you’re saying that apostasy refers to people who once believed certain facts about who Jesus is and what he did, but never put their trust in him? And then those people stopped believing the facts that they once believed, thus committing apostasy? Is that it in a ...
by RickD
Thu Jun 17, 2021 2:14 pm
Forum: Christian Theology
Topic: Can a born again Christian be unborn? OSAS
Replies: 35
Views: 18835

Re: Can a born again Christian be unborn? OSAS

DBowling wrote: I am unaware of any Scripture that supports the premise that a person who is truly born again can stop believing in Jesus. Wouldn’t that be apostasy? Do you have a Scriptural example of what you are referring to? The 1 John 2:19 example of 'apostasy' describes a person (tare) who ma...
by RickD
Thu Jun 17, 2021 11:32 am
Forum: Christian Theology
Topic: Can a born again Christian be unborn? OSAS
Replies: 35
Views: 18835

Re: Can a born again Christian be unborn? OSAS

DBowling wrote: I am unaware of any Scripture that supports the premise that a person who is truly born again can stop believing in Jesus. Wouldn’t that be apostasy? Do you have a Scriptural example of what you are referring to? The 1 John 2:19 example of 'apostasy' describes a person (tare) who ma...
by RickD
Thu Jun 17, 2021 4:12 am
Forum: Christian Theology
Topic: Can a born again Christian be unborn? OSAS
Replies: 35
Views: 18835

Re: Can a born again Christian be unborn? OSAS

DBowling wrote:
I am unaware of any Scripture that supports the premise that a person who is truly born again can stop believing in Jesus.
Wouldn’t that be apostasy?
by RickD
Wed Jun 16, 2021 8:06 pm
Forum: Christian Theology
Topic: Can a born again Christian be unborn? OSAS
Replies: 35
Views: 18835

Re: Can a born again Christian be unborn? OSAS

DBowling wrote: If John Smith truly put his faith and trust in Christ then yes he has eternal life. Ok, I’m with you so far. If John Smith rejects Christ, then according to 1 John 2:19 that is evidence that he never really put his faith and trust in Christ and was never truly born again.. But in my...
by RickD
Wed Jun 16, 2021 7:33 pm
Forum: Christian Theology
Topic: Can a born again Christian be unborn? OSAS
Replies: 35
Views: 18835

Re: Can a born again Christian be unborn? OSAS

Help me understand. John Smith believes/trusts in Christ, and has eternal life. You say that John Smith never really believed/trusted in Christ, because he rejects Jesus. What am I missing? Let's see what 1 John 2:19 says again... "They went out from us, but they did not really belong to us. F...
by RickD
Wed Jun 16, 2021 7:00 pm
Forum: Christian Theology
Topic: Can a born again Christian be unborn? OSAS
Replies: 35
Views: 18835

Re: Can a born again Christian be unborn? OSAS

DBowling wrote: 1)Those who genuinely put their faith and trust in Jesus are wheat, and will remain with Jesus. 2)If a person apostasizes and rejects Jesus, then according to John that is evidence that they are really a "tare/weed" and never really belonged to Jesus. I see a contradiction...
by RickD
Wed Jun 16, 2021 6:30 pm
Forum: Friendly Chit-Chat
Topic: Mysterious UFOs over Washington, D.C.
Replies: 4
Views: 10477

Re: Mysterious UFOs over Washington, D.C.

To me, they’re simply UFOs (Unidentified Flying Objects) at this point.

I’m curious as to what Heiser thinks they are.
by RickD
Wed Jun 16, 2021 6:22 pm
Forum: Christian Theology
Topic: Can a born again Christian be unborn? OSAS
Replies: 35
Views: 18835

Re: Can a born again Christian be unborn? OSAS

DBowling wrote: 1)Those who genuinely put their faith and trust in Jesus are wheat, and will remain with Jesus. 2)If a person apostasizes and rejects Jesus, then according to John that is evidence that they are really a "tare/weed" and never really belonged to Jesus. I see a contradiction...
by RickD
Sat Jun 12, 2021 6:40 pm
Forum: Politics and World Events
Topic: A Fifth Ocean?
Replies: 5
Views: 8231

Re: A Fifth Ocean?

I heard that the new Antarctic Ocean is all a nasa conspiracy. We all know that Antarctica doesn’t exist.
by RickD
Tue Jun 08, 2021 12:40 pm
Forum: Friendly Chit-Chat
Topic: Hello
Replies: 4
Views: 4732

Re: Hello

BGoodForGoodSake wrote: Tue Jun 08, 2021 11:55 am Hi! :ebiggrin:
BGood,

Were you in a coma for 4 years, or just on sabbatical?