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by Dale Tooley
Fri Apr 29, 2005 4:16 pm
Forum: Philosophical Discussions
Topic: Charismatic chaos?
Replies: 35
Views: 17272

Just a short response to "the edge". There is a difference between bringing correction in the use of the gifts and using any supposed incorrect use of the gifts to try and prove they are not in fact gifts of the Spirit at all.FortunatelyI don't think "the edge" is doing that. Som...
by Dale Tooley
Wed Apr 27, 2005 5:16 pm
Forum: Philosophical Discussions
Topic: Charismatic chaos?
Replies: 35
Views: 17272

I like what J316 says and to answer all "The Edge" says would create major debate. I would like to address this question (statement): " I don't understand why the charismatic 1) are defying the the rules laid down by Paul in 1cor 14:27-28 on the proper practise of tongues. " Year...
by Dale Tooley
Wed Apr 06, 2005 9:19 am
Forum: End Times
Topic: What Isaiah 11: 6-8 mean?
Replies: 9
Views: 10231

Isaiah 11: 6 - 8

Peace & reconciliation is all about peace with God ( through a personal relationship with Jesus Christ ) and with other Christians who also share that relationship. There are two keys we must bear in mind when interpreting Old Testament prophecy (1) It must agree with the interpretation put upon...
by Dale Tooley
Sat Mar 12, 2005 6:37 pm
Forum: Questions for Christians
Topic: Hell;...is it literally fire or a eternal holding place
Replies: 39
Views: 11072

Hell & "eternal torment"

John Stott (evangelical theologean of some note says : the 'torment of Revelation 14.10 , because it will be experienced in the presence of the holy angels and of thelamb, seems to refer to the moment of judgement , not to the eternal state. it is not the torment itself but its 'smoke' (symbol of th...
by Dale Tooley
Thu Mar 10, 2005 10:00 pm
Forum: End Times
Topic: What Isaiah 11: 6-8 mean?
Replies: 9
Views: 10231

What Isaiah 11:6-8 mean?

It is a pictorial vision of the coming New Covenant order that is given in Isaiah chapter 11, where we picture "wolves dwelling with lambs, leopards co-existing with goats, calves with lions, children putting their hands in the dens of snakes" Further understanding of what this all means i...
by Dale Tooley
Fri Mar 04, 2005 1:17 am
Forum: End Times
Topic: Isiah 65:17-25
Replies: 18
Views: 9360

Isaiah 65:17-25

My understanding is that all prophecy in Isaiah ( and indeed all the Old Testament prophets) where unfulfilled in the Old Testament are fulfilled in the present "day " of God, the day of grace or the gospel age. They are given in mystery form, indeed the New Testament apostles say that the...
by Dale Tooley
Thu Mar 03, 2005 5:17 pm
Forum: Questions for Christians
Topic: Hell;...is it literally fire or a eternal holding place
Replies: 39
Views: 11072

Church Lady , aren't you being a little arrogant here ? I quoted what Jesus had to say too and Richard much more. You have gone outside scripture to back up your claims. We have not , except to say that outside claims often don't square with scripture. However I am quite willing to leave it to other...
by Dale Tooley
Thu Mar 03, 2005 12:29 pm
Forum: Questions for Christians
Topic: Hell;...is it literally fire or a eternal holding place
Replies: 39
Views: 11072

We could debate the Lazarus & rich man "parable" endlessly. First it must be explained to me why a dab of water on the tip of a tongue would be wanted to cool a whole body enflamed? And how did the rich man in torment manage to speak? Try holding a match under just one finger and talki...
by Dale Tooley
Thu Mar 03, 2005 1:03 am
Forum: Questions for Christians
Topic: Hell;...is it literally fire or a eternal holding place
Replies: 39
Views: 11072

In reply to "church lady" I am aware that many claim to have visions of both heaven and hell. Frankly they are so contradictory to each other I simply am not interested. One man , who supposedly died after being stung by jelly fish found himself in a room that was totally black "utter...
by Dale Tooley
Sun Feb 27, 2005 10:27 am
Forum: Humor and Jokes
Topic: The Swedish sermon
Replies: 2
Views: 2211

The Swedish sermon

A SWEDISH SERMON While on his farm, an immigrant man had a vision and thought he saw the letters "P.C." in the sky. He interpreted that as "Preach Christ" and felt he was called to be a preacher, though he had very limited reading and writing skills. His wife questioned her husba...
by Dale Tooley
Sun Feb 27, 2005 12:16 am
Forum: Creation Talk
Topic: The Tsunami. Why Do Natural Disasters Happen?
Replies: 32
Views: 14765

Deborah, You appear to be implying that the Tsunami happened because mankind did not take care of the earth. If that is so, what will you do with the clear evidence that earthquakes, tectonic plate activity and giant Tsunami's have been going on for thousands, even millions of years? I guess the gre...
by Dale Tooley
Sat Feb 26, 2005 6:31 pm
Forum: Creation Talk
Topic: The Tsunami. Why Do Natural Disasters Happen?
Replies: 32
Views: 14765

Tsunami

I am astounded by the various Christians explanations for the Tsunami . What I am sure of is that earthquakes and the plate tectonics that cause them are natural to our world and part of a designer planet making life on earth possible! There are many things in nature that are part-of-the-price-of-li...
by Dale Tooley
Sat Feb 26, 2005 3:47 pm
Forum: End Times
Topic: Who is the woman in Revelation 12?
Replies: 9
Views: 4664

I can agree with RGeeB that the woman of Revelation is the Church but is a story of how the Church of the Old Testament (the elect) became the Church of the New Testament and how God protects us now! I have an article on the subject at http://www.hastenthelight.org.nz/articles/28.htm Hope you will l...
by Dale Tooley
Sat Feb 26, 2005 3:20 pm
Forum: The Church
Topic: Holy Spirit Baptism and Tongues
Replies: 81
Views: 99369

Speaking in tongues

I have to fully agree with these words already expressed in this forum: "Tongues are a sign that a believer is filled with the Holy Spirit. Tongues are pretty much the language of the Holy Spirit and speaking in it often is another way of connecting with God. It also helps to build our faith.&q...
by Dale Tooley
Sat Feb 26, 2005 11:28 am
Forum: Questions for Christians
Topic: Hell;...is it literally fire or a eternal holding place
Replies: 39
Views: 11072

It's A Hell of A Topic , Hell Is

Probably the busiest Christian website in NZ is http://www.Christianity.co.nz run by Richard Tripp who is a Christian evangelical writer on opologetic subjects . He has this item on the subject of Hell. I'm not convinced of the total truth of it but I hold it as a hope (preferred doctrine) because i...