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by Butterfly
Wed Oct 24, 2012 1:50 pm
Forum: Christian Theology
Topic: going to hell?
Replies: 341
Views: 72314

Re: going to hell?

:shakehead: It went against my internal sense of right and wrong, good and evil...and that my friend was the road that lead me out of Christianity. What "internal sense" of "right and wrong" is that? It is the innate intuitive sense that we all have, if we let our self love be reflected onto the ac...
by Butterfly
Wed Oct 24, 2012 1:35 pm
Forum: Christian Theology
Topic: going to hell?
Replies: 341
Views: 72314

Re: going to hell?

Don't you see how that statement reveals the nature of the Biblegod? How can a god who's called "love" purposely create a place of everlasting torment just because someone doesn't believe in him? It can be likened to a parent who sends their child to prison to be tortured for life, just because the...
by Butterfly
Wed Oct 24, 2012 8:47 am
Forum: Christian Theology
Topic: going to hell?
Replies: 341
Views: 72314

Re: going to hell?

@butterfly so what do you call the way you portray the bible then? wouldn't it be you being wrong and reading into it's words with your own way of thinking? see what i just did there? I portray the Bible truthfully. Throughout my Christian years the only way I knew how to deal with the "bad" parts ...
by Butterfly
Wed Oct 24, 2012 8:37 am
Forum: Christian Theology
Topic: going to hell?
Replies: 341
Views: 72314

Re: going to hell?

Even when I was a Christian I did not believe in the doctrine of hell. You were a nominal Christian, just as most people are. I'm sure you believe you were a God-respecting Christian and I know you use this belief to give yourself credibility now that you have revealed your true nature. You will co...
by Butterfly
Tue Oct 23, 2012 7:07 pm
Forum: Christian Theology
Topic: going to hell?
Replies: 341
Views: 72314

Re: going to hell?

It is my freedom to view the Bible from a different perspective than the one I held for 28 years that has allowed me to see the human aspect of it that I was blinded to. When I became a Christian I accepted the Bible as the word of god without question, because that's how it was presented to me, no...
by Butterfly
Tue Oct 23, 2012 3:02 pm
Forum: Christian Theology
Topic: going to hell?
Replies: 341
Views: 72314

Re: going to hell?

@butterfly i read your blog and i will say that you are very hypocritical in your "transparency" approach. how can you be open to the notion or idea that the God of the bible can be true but then say in order to understand the bible you must kill the notion of it being the word of God and instead v...
by Butterfly
Tue Oct 23, 2012 9:05 am
Forum: Christian Theology
Topic: going to hell?
Replies: 341
Views: 72314

Re: going to hell?

Your blog is full of errors and misconceptions about the bible and God. If you actually left Christianity as you claim - you would not be on this forum at all. Your blog reveals a closed mind that is not at all opened to differing opinions so... Why are you really here? Are you attempting to be an ...
by Butterfly
Mon Oct 22, 2012 5:11 pm
Forum: Christian Theology
Topic: going to hell?
Replies: 341
Views: 72314

Re: going to hell?

If anyone would like to know more I have written extensively about my journey out of Christianity on my blog...here are links to a couple of those articles Progress Report and Second Progress Report. Both links you provided are for the Progress Report dated March 21, 2011. Ooops! Richard (Spock) an...
by Butterfly
Mon Oct 22, 2012 4:25 pm
Forum: Christian Theology
Topic: going to hell?
Replies: 341
Views: 72314

Re: going to hell?

Butterfly wrote: but I do reject the biblegod Is this rejection beyond the point of no return? Or, are you still open? Yes, I'm still open to listen to any new idea, insight, or evidence. Remember, I got to the point where I'm at by having an open mind to look at other perspectives. :mrgreen: - y@};-
by Butterfly
Mon Oct 22, 2012 3:37 pm
Forum: Christian Theology
Topic: going to hell?
Replies: 341
Views: 72314

Re: going to hell?

I am not an atheist, nor have I adopted New Ageism (which you should know if you read my blog). You're right. By way of explanation, I thought you were an atheist when I read some of your comments in various topics here. I also remember reading something about two Christian cults you & Spock were i...
by Butterfly
Mon Oct 22, 2012 3:05 pm
Forum: Christian Theology
Topic: going to hell?
Replies: 341
Views: 72314

Re: going to hell?

Since this isn't the appropriate thread to discuss my spiritual beliefs I will leave it at saying don't be so quick to judge my beliefs as "bizarre", until you know exactly what I mean by the term Universal Collective Consciousness (yes, I got a lot of my ideas from Jung), and it's not Pantheism. A...
by Butterfly
Mon Oct 22, 2012 8:16 am
Forum: Christian Theology
Topic: going to hell?
Replies: 341
Views: 72314

Re: going to hell?

I'm leaning toward the idea of being part of a universal collective consciousness, not pantheism. Universal collective consciousness? That sounds Jungian...and pantheistic. Or maybe it's a form of deism? You would have to elaborate. I must say that I am a little disappointed! You must be in your 50...
by Butterfly
Sun Oct 21, 2012 8:32 pm
Forum: Christian Theology
Topic: going to hell?
Replies: 341
Views: 72314

Re: going to hell?

I know the ex nihilo theory is very popular, but what bugs me about it is if god is all in all then there was nothing outside of god from which to create... This isn't Christianity. God being all in all is a panentheistic vue, in that all reality is in - and generated by - god. God being all is a p...
by Butterfly
Sun Oct 21, 2012 8:22 pm
Forum: Christian Theology
Topic: going to hell?
Replies: 341
Views: 72314

Re: going to hell?

Butterfly, I don't know about you but I believe everything was created ex nihilo, we are not a part of God. We were created out of nothing to be free moral agents, if we reject God he honors our wish to be seperated from him, this does not mean God is not whole, because we were not created out of h...
by Butterfly
Sun Oct 21, 2012 7:26 pm
Forum: Christian Theology
Topic: going to hell?
Replies: 341
Views: 72314

Re: going to hell?

Butterfly, I don't know about you but I believe everything was created ex nihilo, we are not a part of God. We were created out of nothing to be free moral agents, if we reject God he honors our wish to be seperated from him, this does not mean God is not whole, because we were not created out of h...