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by Beanybag
Wed Sep 12, 2012 10:36 am
Forum: Christian Theology
Topic: Proof that GOD Exists
Replies: 70
Views: 18433

Re: Proof that GOD Exists

on an amusing, side note beany, if I am to to be tried in a court room on the charges of theft and when I am asked to say something in my defense and I repeat the same thing in court what you wrote above: When we assert 'stealing is not good', there is a lot going on. There is the arduous task of d...
by Beanybag
Wed Sep 12, 2012 10:02 am
Forum: Philosophical Discussions
Topic: Acting morally on atheism
Replies: 77
Views: 22468

Re: Acting morally on atheism

Wait, you're not asserting any ontological view? Yet, here you are telling us that reality is composed of propositions that are BOTH true AND false? You admittedly don't have a working metaphysics structure that "you don't personally ascribe to"? Yet, you seem to have no problem but to help yoursel...
by Beanybag
Tue Sep 11, 2012 10:52 pm
Forum: Christian Theology
Topic: Proof that GOD Exists
Replies: 70
Views: 18433

Re: Proof that GOD Exists

To say it is true in some instances and false at others is what we call subjectivity, it is to evade the question partially because now we are defining true or false as we see fit and even that may change from our understanding over time. But why I do not find this work around impressive, is becaus...
by Beanybag
Mon Sep 10, 2012 5:56 pm
Forum: Philosophical Discussions
Topic: Acting morally on atheism
Replies: 77
Views: 22468

Re: Acting morally on atheism

(prove that there is such thing as a 'nothing') Oh brother. Well, good luck with this one Dom. When asking 'why is there something rather than nothing?', implicit in the question is that nothing is the default state of things.. Lots of complications arise from discussions on nothing and it's not so...
by Beanybag
Mon Sep 10, 2012 2:14 pm
Forum: Philosophical Discussions
Topic: Acting morally on atheism
Replies: 77
Views: 22468

Re: Acting morally on atheism

If you want to contiously claim that your mathematics is in any way significant, you MUST have justification (what is math? Where does it exist? Where did it come from? Etc) Until you do so, we all have to reject it here. We do philosophy here, we don't blindly accept assertions trying to convey so...
by Beanybag
Sun Sep 09, 2012 3:34 pm
Forum: Philosophical Discussions
Topic: Acting morally on atheism
Replies: 77
Views: 22468

Re: Acting morally on atheism

Uncertainty principle is not an example of an undecidable problem, by the way, just an example that something can be unknowable. The best example is the halting problem , and all undecidable problems will be shown to reduce to it. Sometimes you can find a way to show that specific program will or wi...
by Beanybag
Fri Sep 07, 2012 10:23 pm
Forum: Philosophical Discussions
Topic: Acting morally on atheism
Replies: 77
Views: 22468

Re: Acting morally on atheism

You should try refuting what I said. I am not denying truth. I am asserting the truth value about a proposition's knowability. Even mathematicians do this. You are making yourself sound quite foolish. There's an area of quantum mechanics which easily shows that certain knowledge will preclude the k...
by Beanybag
Fri Sep 07, 2012 1:42 pm
Forum: Christian Theology
Topic: Proof that GOD Exists
Replies: 70
Views: 18433

Re: Proof that GOD Exists

...that would make morality arbitrary, wholly subjective, and just an opinion. I agree, but I don't see how that's a defense for absolute morality. I have a personal aversion to the idea that there is no absolute morality, but that doesn't make it a false doctrine. You know, it's okay to hold an id...
by Beanybag
Fri Sep 07, 2012 10:52 am
Forum: Christian Theology
Topic: Proof that GOD Exists
Replies: 70
Views: 18433

Re: Proof that GOD Exists

If there is no absolute morality then any act is neither right or wrong. It simply is and any objection is to be met with "sez who?" If we have no notion of what is right and wrong that is absolute then anything is subjective to what we FEEL at the time, so: Killing is ok, infanticide is ok, women ...
by Beanybag
Fri Sep 07, 2012 8:15 am
Forum: Philosophical Discussions
Topic: Acting morally on atheism
Replies: 77
Views: 22468

Re: Acting morally on atheism

Its exactly like making these similar statements. There is no truth The truth cannot be known The truth goes beyond thought The truth cannot be spoken Opposites can be both be true And so forth.... It simply does not matter where you say the proposition is. ANY PROPOSITION at ANY PLACE cannot contr...
by Beanybag
Thu Sep 06, 2012 10:06 pm
Forum: Philosophical Discussions
Topic: Acting morally on atheism
Replies: 77
Views: 22468

Re: Acting morally on atheism

EDIT: Personally, I think it is rational insofar as it is within one's material self-interest. When it is not - why? If morality is to a large extent a human construct, then obeying it when it's against your self-interest is tantamount to saying you will unthinkingly obey what a bunch of mere morta...
by Beanybag
Wed Sep 05, 2012 11:37 am
Forum: God and Science
Topic: Evolution and Intelligent Design
Replies: 429
Views: 76914

Re: Evolution and Intelligent Design

It was a 'fact', but not a scientific theory. Those didn't exist at the time. Science had yet to be developed. Maybe it would be the chronological equivalent of what is now a theory, but that doesn't make it any more convincing. They weren't practicing the scientific method as it is today. They were...
by Beanybag
Tue Sep 04, 2012 12:14 pm
Forum: God and Science
Topic: Evolution and Intelligent Design
Replies: 429
Views: 76914

Re: Evolution and Intelligent Design

Geocentricism wasn't a theory..
by Beanybag
Mon Sep 03, 2012 8:57 am
Forum: Philosophical Discussions
Topic: Acting morally on atheism
Replies: 77
Views: 22468

Re: Acting morally on atheism

Positive. To say that you KNOW that something is UNKNOWABLE is actually saying you KNOW SOMETHING ABOUT IT Its a contradiction. Plain and simple. If you don't KNOW something, you can only claim your ignorance. At best, you can only claim that you KNOW that you are ignorant. You CANNOT JUSTIFY IGNOR...
by Beanybag
Sun Sep 02, 2012 1:23 pm
Forum: Philosophical Discussions
Topic: Acting morally on atheism
Replies: 77
Views: 22468

Re: Acting morally on atheism

Couple of things I wanted to point out is that stating that you know that something is unknowable is a contradiction. If you're going to make statements like that, you can only claim "I don't know". That's not a strong position to argue from because that is argument from ignorance. Are you so sure?...