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by Beanybag
Tue Sep 18, 2012 7:34 pm
Forum: Christian Theology
Topic: How do you know the Bible is inspired?
Replies: 50
Views: 10366

Re: How do you know the Bible is inspired?

I just have a quick question.. how do we know the church has an authority from founding without using the Bible (since you're trying to establish the inspiration of the bible without being circular)? Further, how do we know that Jesus established the church with Peter as its rock without the Bible? ...
by Beanybag
Tue Sep 18, 2012 11:17 am
Forum: Philosophical Discussions
Topic: Acting morally on atheism
Replies: 77
Views: 22468

Re: Acting morally on atheism

Infinite regress is the same argument as making a claim of an infinite. If an actual infinite exists, an actual infinite regress would be a legitimate argument. However, it isn't. The assertion of an infinite regress assumes that a finite worldview is false. So, its a type of question begging. It c...
by Beanybag
Mon Sep 17, 2012 2:11 pm
Forum: God and Science
Topic: Biology of life and 3D spatial positioning
Replies: 191
Views: 38074

Re: Biology of life and 3D spatial positioning

KBCid, why don't you try to find a biologist, or some more qualified experts to work on this paper with? At the very least, you could try to investigate the necessary and sufficient requirements for 3d-spatial positioning. Perhaps work with a chemist or biochemist as well, get a team together, and d...
by Beanybag
Sun Sep 16, 2012 12:35 pm
Forum: Philosophical Discussions
Topic: Acting morally on atheism
Replies: 77
Views: 22468

Re: Acting morally on atheism

What I find even more amusing is that you're talking about Godel. Godel believed in PURE REASON. Godel was showing us that we are limited in mathematic ability. This only leaves us with a debate about infinity, and philosophers discard it. We call it, argument from infinity. Had to look it up to be...
by Beanybag
Thu Sep 13, 2012 12:10 pm
Forum: Politics and World Events
Topic: One Atheist argument (finally?) disregarded?
Replies: 20
Views: 6206

Re: One Atheist argument (finally?) disregarded?

Most wars are fought over resources/land/power...But throughout history, leaders have utilized the people's religion to manipulate their alliances and motivate or unite the people in favor of their war. Agreed to this. But I would point out that atheism is no more a reason to fight wars than religi...
by Beanybag
Thu Sep 13, 2012 11:55 am
Forum: Philosophical Discussions
Topic: Acting morally on atheism
Replies: 77
Views: 22468

Re: Acting morally on atheism

You are talking about Godel's incompleteness theorem, right? He is talking about numbers (specifically the natural ones), not the logical system itself. His incompleteness theorem showed that any set of axioms would not be able to be both complete and consistent, and if it showed itself to be so, w...
by Beanybag
Wed Sep 12, 2012 2:22 pm
Forum: Christian Theology
Topic: Proof that GOD Exists
Replies: 70
Views: 18434

Re: Proof that GOD Exists

It seems you can't see where it is, so I'll quote it. Thank you. I believe the point you are making is this: "hot" and "cold" are subjective, but the only reason such ideas exist is because of objective concepts like temperature. If I say I am "happy" or "sad", it's all relative... but the fact tha...
by Beanybag
Wed Sep 12, 2012 2:01 pm
Forum: Christian Theology
Topic: Proof that GOD Exists
Replies: 70
Views: 18434

Re: Proof that GOD Exists

You can't use words that depend on the idea you're trying to defend to defend your idea. If there is no objective morality, there is no such thing as murder. Just because the word "murder" exists doesn't necessarily prove there is objective morality. Only that we, for whatever reason, have a concep...
by Beanybag
Wed Sep 12, 2012 1:40 pm
Forum: Christian Theology
Topic: Proof that GOD Exists
Replies: 70
Views: 18434

Re: Proof that GOD Exists

If I define stealing as 'wrongfully taking what doesn't belong to you', then it's wrong by definition. Then, the problem is reduced to our theory of good or our idea of what makes someghing right or wrong. And also, it helps to establish what qualifies as ownership. Whoa whoa whoa, you are using th...
by Beanybag
Wed Sep 12, 2012 1:08 pm
Forum: Christian Theology
Topic: Proof that GOD Exists
Replies: 70
Views: 18434

Re: Proof that GOD Exists

Can you prove that? Can you show that j-c morals are from God and not evolved / developed? When human societies compete, why is cohabitation more successful and stable to power plays and might-makes-right tyrannies. Do you wonder about the possibly objective basis for our subjective preferences? Is...
by Beanybag
Wed Sep 12, 2012 12:51 pm
Forum: God and Science
Topic: Bill Nye The Science Guy Says Creationism Is Wrong.
Replies: 31
Views: 6768

Re: Bill Nye The Science Guy Says Creationism Is Wrong.

PaulSacramento wrote:Many ancient peoples, scientists if you wanna call them that
I wouldn't want to call them that.
by Beanybag
Wed Sep 12, 2012 12:47 pm
Forum: Christian Theology
Topic: Proof that GOD Exists
Replies: 70
Views: 18434

Re: Proof that GOD Exists

An atheist is left in a sticky position, especially when morals enter a debate. Richard Dawkins claimed it is hard to defend morals on anything except religious grounds. Let's say evolution just caused us to feel some things are wrong. But this doesn't mean actions really are wrong. Because having ...
by Beanybag
Wed Sep 12, 2012 12:40 pm
Forum: Christian Theology
Topic: Proof that GOD Exists
Replies: 70
Views: 18434

Re: Proof that GOD Exists

Now, you ask, "is stealing wrong?" to which I'd say, yes. It is wrong, or bad, by definition. How's that? If I take something from you without your permission, how is that "by definition" wrong? If I define stealing as 'wrongfully taking what doesn't belong to you', then it's wrong by definition. T...
by Beanybag
Wed Sep 12, 2012 10:43 am
Forum: Christian Theology
Topic: Who are we to judge homosexuality/others?
Replies: 231
Views: 39453

Re: Who are we to judge homosexuality/others?

I think being "ok" with it is kind of the wrong word. Christians accept that man is sinful and will have the desire to sin and that sin/desire can manifest itself in many ways. The act of rape, of theft, of killing, of illict sex, etc, these acts are wrong and condemned as sin, as are the temptatio...
by Beanybag
Wed Sep 12, 2012 10:42 am
Forum: Christian Theology
Topic: Proof that GOD Exists
Replies: 70
Views: 18434

Re: Proof that GOD Exists

Now, you ask, "is stealing wrong?" to which I'd say, yes. It is wrong, or bad, by definition. The only ambiguity left would be can we define and set a concrete border on all actions that constitute stealing? That seems difficult. Can we set a concrete and inflexible value to the harm of stealing? Wh...