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by R7-12
Fri Feb 24, 2006 10:25 am
Forum: Philosophical Discussions
Topic: The Sabbath
Replies: 221
Views: 44190

Jbuza,

It appears you misunderstsood what I was saying in my post. Notice it starts with If.

Here's the point of it. IF the church was not required to keep those commandments then why were they told not to let any individual judge them on how they are keeping them, but the body only?

R7-12
by R7-12
Fri Feb 24, 2006 8:27 am
Forum: Philosophical Discussions
Topic: The Sabbath
Replies: 221
Views: 44190

If all of God's commandments were nailed to the cross and thus made void or obsolete, then the brethren at Collosae would never again observe any of the Hoy Days, New Moons, or Sabbaths, would they? I mean if they're gone then they're gone, right? It's simple logic. Therefore, if that were the case ...
by R7-12
Thu Feb 23, 2006 8:33 am
Forum: Philosophical Discussions
Topic: The Sabbath
Replies: 221
Views: 44190

Col. 2 is a powerfeul example of NT Scripture supporting obedience to the law of God. Consider verses 16 & 17. The church was responsible for the stewardship of the the truth (1 Cor. 4:1). Thus it was not appropriate for our brethren in Colossae (for example) to allow ANY INDIVIDUAL to pass judgment...
by R7-12
Thu Feb 23, 2006 8:32 am
Forum: Philosophical Discussions
Topic: The Sabbath
Replies: 221
Views: 44190

Please provide the Biblical explanation of how the term under the law was undertsood in the first century church.

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by R7-12
Thu Feb 23, 2006 8:22 am
Forum: Philosophical Discussions
Topic: The Sabbath
Replies: 221
Views: 44190

Nowhere in the texts quoted does it say anything about the commandments of God being annulled or made void or done away. If it is your opinion that the Sabbath commandment is no longer in effect and that God's people are no longer required to keep them or the New Moons or the Feasts of God, please e...
by R7-12
Thu Feb 23, 2006 1:04 am
Forum: Philosophical Discussions
Topic: The Sabbath
Replies: 221
Views: 44190

sounds like r7-12 is a seventh day adventist or something, i think they still observe the dietary laws as well. It doesn't make sense when the scriptures gives us freedom and liberty from such binding and strict laws. The or something comment may be the most accurate thing said about me. Now let me...
by R7-12
Wed Feb 22, 2006 12:38 am
Forum: Philosophical Discussions
Topic: The Sabbath
Replies: 221
Views: 44190

Thank you Jbuza for demonstrating the very fact that not one shred of truth or evidence can be produced claiming the the will of God does have to be obeyed by His elect.

The texts you put forward don't even remotely come close to the topic at hand.

R7-12
by R7-12
Mon Feb 20, 2006 10:50 pm
Forum: Philosophical Discussions
Topic: The Sabbath
Replies: 221
Views: 44190

The fact of the matter is the Sabbath day never changed one iota. Those who had political agendas took it upon themselves to assert what they wanted the masses to observe and which satisfied their own self-serving goals. Behind all that of course was the adversary. There has not been a single argume...
by R7-12
Tue Feb 14, 2006 11:08 pm
Forum: The Bible and Scripture
Topic: The Sabbath Day
Replies: 54
Views: 5940

There appears to be fear, apprehension, resistance or ignorance preventing all from providing answers to something that God's people are expected to know. The following is not comprehensive but suffices to answer the question at hand. Each passage provides at least some indication of the knowledge o...
by R7-12
Mon Jan 30, 2006 2:13 pm
Forum: Philosophical Discussions
Topic: The Sabbath
Replies: 221
Views: 44190

You wrote, I agree God's Law is good and True. If it is good and true then it is good for you and truth for you. How can you then call it “nothing” and “a curse”? You quoted me, You wrote, These are expressions of love according to the law of God. They are how we learn to correctly love God and ou...
by R7-12
Mon Jan 30, 2006 2:05 pm
Forum: Philosophical Discussions
Topic: The Sabbath
Replies: 221
Views: 44190

Jbuza said, I am not offended by you allowing the written word to take precedence, and I agree that it is right to do so. I was offended by the fact that you appear self righteous in your attitude about the law, and once someone came along that had your same attitude you made your statement. The sta...
by R7-12
Fri Jan 27, 2006 11:25 pm
Forum: Philosophical Discussions
Topic: The Sabbath
Replies: 221
Views: 44190

In several letters Paul dealt with those Jews who rejected the sacrifice of Christ and insisted that everyone whether Jew or Greek had to be circumcised (physical sign and seal of the first covenant) and keep the law of Moses (temple ordinances), instead of accepting Christ. This is what the entire ...
by R7-12
Fri Jan 27, 2006 11:17 pm
Forum: Philosophical Discussions
Topic: The Sabbath
Replies: 221
Views: 44190

To be under the law is to be in subjection to the sacrificial ordinances of the first covenant and the temple ordinances. These were given as a tutor or guide or schoolmaster to teach us about the seriousness of committing sin, the possibility of forgiveness, the need for a substitute sacrifice, mer...
by R7-12
Fri Jan 27, 2006 11:13 pm
Forum: Philosophical Discussions
Topic: The Sabbath
Replies: 221
Views: 44190

This logical conclusion demands that the meaning of under the law must refer to an aspect of the law of God other than the moral precepts referred to as the commandments of God. But now the righteousness of God apart from the law is revealed, being witnessed by the Law and the Prophets (Rom. 3:21, N...
by R7-12
Fri Jan 27, 2006 11:12 pm
Forum: Philosophical Discussions
Topic: The Sabbath
Replies: 221
Views: 44190

Jbuza You said, Who are those who are not under the law, but have the faith of Abraham? Clearly there are some who are not under the Law who have the faith of Abraham who was justified by that faith. Cheesh wait he was pre LAw he must be in trouble also. This shows you have not benefited from our di...