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by B. W.
Sat Nov 19, 2005 12:43 pm
Forum: Christian Theology
Topic: The Holy Trinity
Replies: 358
Views: 48953

What I mean by this is to clarify if you believe Jesus became Deity when he was begotten. Is this what you mean by your statement - Christ was a man empowered by God to do all that he did, and performed acts with the authority of God which God delegated to him. No I do not believe that Christ becam...
by B. W.
Sat Nov 19, 2005 12:24 pm
Forum: Christian Theology
Topic: The Holy Trinity
Replies: 358
Views: 48953

There is whole historical record prior — before the text were ever codified, before the New Testament letters were complied, and yes before the modern 'best' text. These came from the years 69 to 160 AD, the sub-apostolic age. How come the authors of these records never taught or believed as you no...
by B. W.
Sat Nov 19, 2005 12:11 pm
Forum: Christian Theology
Topic: The Holy Trinity
Replies: 358
Views: 48953

Wallace is a professional Greek scholar who can articulate the rule in far better detail than myself. It is more important for you to read him than to read me. Anything I write will be dismissed as the view of a 'cultist' in any case. Having said which, I have already summed up in my own words how ...
by B. W.
Sat Nov 19, 2005 9:32 am
Forum: Christian Theology
Topic: The Holy Trinity
Replies: 358
Views: 48953

If you had read my post, you would have seen that I was in fact making my argument from the original text, not from the translations. I pointed out that modern translations have made the shift out of a recognition of the original text. Mr. Fortigurn, you are predictable. Attempting to dissuade and ...
by B. W.
Fri Nov 18, 2005 5:45 pm
Forum: Christian Theology
Topic: The Holy Trinity
Replies: 358
Views: 48953

No I am not saying that Jesus was empowered by God to have 'two sides — Deity by empowerment, and Human by nature'. He had one side, like all humans, because he was a human being (not a crossbreed) I do not mean this in the Trinitarian concept. Deity empowered by Spirit power at the birth of Jesus ...
by B. W.
Fri Nov 18, 2005 5:28 pm
Forum: Christian Theology
Topic: The Holy Trinity
Replies: 358
Views: 48953

Wallace is a professional Greek scholar who can articulate the rule in far better detail than myself. It is more important for you to read him than to read me. Anything I write will be dismissed as the view of a 'cultist' in any case. Having said which, I have already summed up in my own words how ...
by B. W.
Fri Nov 18, 2005 1:39 pm
Forum: Christian Theology
Topic: Jesus is the light of the world!
Replies: 3
Views: 1099

Re: Jesus is the light of the world!

http://koti.phnet.fi/elohim/Bible_and_the_history6 - (Matt 27:50-51) and when Jesus had cried out again in a loud voice, he gave up his spirit. 51. At that moment the curtain of the temple was torn in two from top to bottom. The earth shook and the rocks split. When we consider the meaning of the d...
by B. W.
Fri Nov 18, 2005 12:54 pm
Forum: Christian Theology
Topic: The Holy Trinity
Replies: 358
Views: 48953

Forge has brought out a very good point and I hope he does not mind my using his thread frame used to further the discussion. I have no idea what kind of bizarre thing you have in mind, but it's far from my beliefs. Either Jesus was/is God or he is/was not. If not, he must have been man. If he was ...
by B. W.
Fri Nov 18, 2005 11:32 am
Forum: Christian Theology
Topic: The Holy Trinity
Replies: 358
Views: 48953

I wrote to Mr, Fortigurn in response to I Timothy 3:16 concerning Greek Grammar, “I will take this as your answer: the Greek language never verifies Jesus as God. If that is your position, we can continue by exploring this further.” Then Mr. Fortigurn answered my question like: This was a particul...
by B. W.
Thu Nov 17, 2005 10:06 pm
Forum: Christian Theology
Topic: The Holy Trinity
Replies: 358
Views: 48953

No, God. And Scripture is explicit on this point - God was in Christ reconciling the world to Himself (God). There is one God, and one mediator between God and men , the man Christ Jesus. So, yes, Jesus was a mere man. I feel uncomfortable that a sinful creature marred by original sin and susceptib...
by B. W.
Thu Nov 17, 2005 9:28 pm
Forum: Christian Theology
Topic: The Holy Trinity
Replies: 358
Views: 48953

I wrote to Mr, Fortigurn in response to I Timothy 3:16 concerning Greek Grammar, “I will take this as your answer: the Greek language never verifies Jesus as God. If that is your position, we can continue by exploring this further.” Then Mr. Fortigurn answered my question like: This was a particula...
by B. W.
Thu Nov 17, 2005 7:33 pm
Forum: Christian Theology
Topic: The Holy Trinity
Replies: 358
Views: 48953

If the author did not want to convey the message of God being manifested in the flesh he could have simply said 'He who was born and was given Godly powers' . Why bother with the manifestation business? Is it to confuse us? I don't think so as those words were inspired by the Holy Spirit and as suc...
by B. W.
Thu Nov 17, 2005 11:28 am
Forum: Christian Theology
Topic: The Holy Trinity
Replies: 358
Views: 48953

In Greek: when two nouns in the same case are connected by the Greek word 'and' and the first noun is preceded by the article 'the' and the second noun is not preceded by the article, the second noun refers to the same thing, etc, to which the first noun refers. Do you agree with this basic rule of ...
by B. W.
Thu Nov 17, 2005 11:26 am
Forum: Christian Theology
Topic: The Holy Trinity
Replies: 358
Views: 48953

The purpose of my last post was an offer to you and the forum community here to explore the doctrine of the Trinity in a logical manner. I simply laid out a format to use and began the discussion. The Doctrine is there. You boldly claim that you have done so and all this is useless predicate as you ...
by B. W.
Thu Nov 17, 2005 12:45 am
Forum: Christian Theology
Topic: The Holy Trinity
Replies: 358
Views: 48953

Mr. Fortigurn, the reason that it appears to you that I am not reading your post is that I am not answering you the way you want. If you read my post again, you'll discover that I do answer all your questions but not in a manner you are familiar with. In the first page post of this thread you asked ...