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by secretfire6
Sun Feb 02, 2014 7:33 pm
Forum: The Bible and Scripture
Topic: Why is This in the bible?
Replies: 40
Views: 4925

Re: Why is This in the bible?

In the last few years I've done a TON of study into the editing of the western Bible. It is mind blowing and heart wrenching how much of the Bible we have today is fake. What is even worse is the things that were removed. The audacity of the early Roman church is amazing. When caught and confronted...
by secretfire6
Sun Feb 02, 2014 6:50 pm
Forum: Creation Talk
Topic: Can of worms time.
Replies: 21
Views: 3412

Re: Can of worms time.

There used to be something called "the defender's Bible" that was an accumulation of church style scientific points that "proved" the young age of the earth. so much of it has since been proven wrong that it has all but been abandoned. It contained such things as: since the sun is expanding at (such...
by secretfire6
Sun Feb 02, 2014 6:24 pm
Forum: The Bible and Scripture
Topic: There is no Trinity
Replies: 123
Views: 12370

Re: There is no Trinity

Actually fellas and ladies, I've found the information in the original post to be true. There are several very good reasons and quite a bit of evidence to support that the trinity doctrine was created by the political powers of Rome for purely political reasons. I used to be a trinity believer and m...
by secretfire6
Sun Feb 02, 2014 5:15 pm
Forum: The Bible and Scripture
Topic: Why is This in the bible?
Replies: 40
Views: 4925

Re: Why is This in the bible?

In the last few years I've done a TON of study into the editing of the western Bible. It is mind blowing and heart wrenching how much of the Bible we have today is fake. What is even worse is the things that were removed. The audacity of the early Roman church is amazing. When caught and confronted ...
by secretfire6
Tue Nov 20, 2012 9:26 pm
Forum: Christian Theology
Topic: Trinitarian Theology
Replies: 81
Views: 10737

Re: Trinitarian Theology

I don't think there is a heirarchy or chain of command either, not like we understand it( that was a hypothetical IF), but I also don't belive Jesus was just an alias for an incarnated Father. The trinity is more on the right path, but I feel puts a limit on what God really is as well as confuses th...
by secretfire6
Tue Nov 13, 2012 5:18 am
Forum: Christian Theology
Topic: sin that leads to death
Replies: 40
Views: 8441

Re: sin that leads to death

hey all I've been gone for awhile learning and growing exponentially and, well I'm trying to understand this discussion. we are all in agreement that salvation, that is believing in the sacrifice of the messiah, is something given to us more than something we work for, right? like a gift? Unlike a ...
by secretfire6
Tue Nov 13, 2012 4:34 am
Forum: Christian Theology
Topic: Trinitarian Theology
Replies: 81
Views: 10737

Re: Trinitarian Theology

I bet Angels are just like us...us as in our spirits not our flesh. They are spirits that have learned and experienced all things and made it back to unity with the father and no longer NEED to incarnate. That is our goal also. In Paradise we will find out. If they get ressurected bodies, they are l...
by secretfire6
Sat Nov 03, 2012 1:16 pm
Forum: Christian Theology
Topic: Trinitarian Theology
Replies: 81
Views: 10737

Re: Trinitarian Theology

So my main question is: in the beginning, during creation, were the Father, the Word and holy spirit the only parts of God there? Were the angels and all of us there too? Are we the "us" and "our" that Genesis records in connection to making mankind? Which part of creation? When the universe was cr...
by secretfire6
Sat Oct 27, 2012 6:27 pm
Forum: Christian Theology
Topic: sin that leads to death
Replies: 40
Views: 8441

Re: sin that leads to death

hey all I've been gone for awhile learning and growing exponentially and, well I'm trying to understand this discussion. we are all in agreement that salvation, that is believing in the sacrifice of the messiah, is something given to us more than something we work for, right? like a gift? Unlike a ...
by secretfire6
Sat Oct 27, 2012 5:05 pm
Forum: Aberrant Christianity
Topic: Book of Enoch
Replies: 10
Views: 3962

Re: Book of Enoch

Ok so I have read about 60% or more of the book of Enoch from that site and was about to ask about the naming of the 2 witnesses that appear in Revelation. Now I can't find where I read it in Enoch without re reading the whole thing. Alot of people argue over what or who the 2 witnesses that preach ...
by secretfire6
Sat Oct 27, 2012 4:39 pm
Forum: Christian Theology
Topic: Trinitarian Theology
Replies: 81
Views: 10737

Re: Trinitarian Theology

Elohim when used of God and the singular verbs to denote "one" I, he, him..etc. God is never a "they" however there are the 4 "us" texts in the bible. Gen 1:26 "let us" but in Gen 1:27 makes it clear that one creator is creating and confirmed by Jesus. Definately read the link posted by canuckster ...
by secretfire6
Sat Oct 27, 2012 3:36 pm
Forum: Christian Theology
Topic: Trinitarian Theology
Replies: 81
Views: 10737

Re: Trinitarian Theology

Hmm ok I think i'm with you guys so far. I love the "species" way of saying it. I see God as a collective. God is spirit and is in many things..all things. But god is totally unique and there is only one. Where as other species have males and females and other sub groups or relative types, God is se...
by secretfire6
Sun Oct 21, 2012 10:59 am
Forum: Christian Theology
Topic: Trinitarian Theology
Replies: 81
Views: 10737

Re: Trinitarian Theology

here's a good question for you and Paul Sacramento, all just theoretical. You mentioned John's gospel and it says that Jesus's spirit existed from the beginning. since everything came from God, physical universe and all of our spirits, and it all was created in the beginning then couldn't we say..fo...
by secretfire6
Sun Oct 21, 2012 10:15 am
Forum: Christian Theology
Topic: Trinitarian Theology
Replies: 81
Views: 10737

Re: Trinitarian Theology

The Gospel of John is pretty much universally accepted to have been the last Gospel written and there's strong evidence that the opening prologue to John (Jesus as the "Word") is in direct response to gnostic teaching that that which is physical being "evil" as opposed to that which is "spiritual" ...
by secretfire6
Sun Oct 21, 2012 10:06 am
Forum: Christian Theology
Topic: Trinitarian Theology
Replies: 81
Views: 10737

Re: Trinitarian Theology

Paul, i'm not sure what the gnostics said or did to be set apart as heretics. I haven't studied them yet. They were just in a long list of original (by original i mean pre Rome) christian ways of thinking that were stomped out by the infant Roman church. Knowing what I know about the Roman church, ...