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by warhoop
Fri Jul 10, 2009 9:11 pm
Forum: Christian Theology
Topic: can god be good if he created evil?
Replies: 49
Views: 7970

Re: can god be good if he created evil?

A different tack, if you will since the discussion seems to have centered on virtues. And if I may clarify, we are using the word virtue as a general descriptor of moral excellence, not necessarily speaking about cardinal or theological virtues and that the virtues or moral excellences are imparted ...
by warhoop
Fri Jul 10, 2009 7:13 pm
Forum: Aberrant Christianity
Topic: Speaking in tongues.
Replies: 210
Views: 53950

Re: Speaking in tongues.

Warhoop, I agree that it, the it referring to speaking in tongues, *shouldn't* be so decisive. We, however, are not the ones who are mking it so. The question, now, it seems, is not whether scripture says that someone may speak in tongues. There are several of us who do so. I am not one of them, pe...
by warhoop
Fri Jul 10, 2009 5:54 pm
Forum: The Bible and Scripture
Topic: Commentary on Gen 1-2
Replies: 75
Views: 7725

Re: Commentary on Gen 1-2

God as Maker of heaven and earth? Yep God established mankind in His image? Yep Mankind was without sin befor the fall? Yep Mankind fell? Yep Satan was at workat the fall? Yep We were cursed? Yep (now, I may debate what that means with regard to animalk death...I read a commentary all about weeds a...
by warhoop
Fri Jul 10, 2009 5:29 pm
Forum: Aberrant Christianity
Topic: Speaking in tongues.
Replies: 210
Views: 53950

Re: Speaking in tongues.

It really is...disenheartening, that this issue is so divisive. I think it's a far more heated debate than anything else that we as Christians discuss and I really am sorry to say that I am not above it. I took a step back to examine my own heart with regards to this issue and realized that if someo...
by warhoop
Fri Jul 10, 2009 4:36 pm
Forum: Aberrant Christianity
Topic: Christian Universalism
Replies: 170
Views: 37500

Re: Christian Universalism

Very good post BW. Koine Greek is not a language impoverished of vocabulary, if the NT writers wanted to say temporal, they would have. In my church there are lots of people who, before they became christians, had terrible drug addictions. Many who were depressed, lonely, in a cycle of destructive b...
by warhoop
Fri Jul 10, 2009 3:47 pm
Forum: Questions for Christians
Topic: Cain's journey
Replies: 42
Views: 4928

Re: Cain's journey

I've re-read the article, and in my opinion it is complete nonsense. It talks of genes more complicated with the induction of sin. It, for me, is a most desperate of articles. I hope true Christians see through this sort of thing. So you're given a plausible answer, you disagree with it, and theref...
by warhoop
Fri Jul 10, 2009 1:31 pm
Forum: God and Science
Topic: Yom, a dialogue
Replies: 32
Views: 2584

Re: Yom, a dialogue

You reference Exodus 20:8-11, and I agree that this passage cannot be summarily dismissed and while I have some thoughts about it, I would like to hear what the other problems are that you were referencing. I'm sure that in the course of discussing this portion of scripture, other problems will sur...
by warhoop
Thu Jul 09, 2009 7:31 pm
Forum: God and Science
Topic: Yom, a dialogue
Replies: 32
Views: 2584

Re: Yom, a dialogue

There are several problems with interpreting Yom as anything other than ~ 24hr periods in Gen 1. You reference Exodus 20:8-11, and I agree that this passage cannot be summarily dismissed and while I have some thoughts about it, I would like to hear what the other problems are that you were referenc...
by warhoop
Thu Jul 09, 2009 6:59 pm
Forum: Aberrant Christianity
Topic: Christian Universalism
Replies: 170
Views: 37500

Re: Christian Universalism

Because we were not saved all along- were slaves to sin, dead in sin, we couldn't come into His presence because of our disgusting sin. Jesus' death on the cross is how God will fulfil His oath to make all His creation worship Him. It is because Jesus died that we are all saved. We aren't saved bec...
by warhoop
Sun Jul 05, 2009 12:00 am
Forum: God and Science
Topic: Yom, a dialogue
Replies: 32
Views: 2584

Re: Yom, a dialogue

I agree, I'm not married to 24hr day either, obviously as a progressive creationist, and I rather enjoy almost the irony of using a word that typically relates a short period of time to refer to events that really must have taken a long, long time. But I can't help but wonder, and this may be naivet...
by warhoop
Sat Jul 04, 2009 11:50 pm
Forum: Aberrant Christianity
Topic: Speaking in tongues.
Replies: 210
Views: 53950

Re: Speaking in tongues.

Also Paul told Timothy "do the work of an evangelist", the idea that believers in the gospel would not get the signs-following unless and until an apostle happened to swing by is a curious doctrine indeed! There is not one instance where the presence of a human apostle is said to be required. I apo...
by warhoop
Sat Jul 04, 2009 6:44 pm
Forum: God and Science
Topic: Yom, a dialogue
Replies: 32
Views: 2584

Re: Yom, a dialogue

Very nice, thank you Gman. So why is it, that given all these possible uses of the word yom, it is translated into day with regards to the creation account?
by warhoop
Sat Jul 04, 2009 5:31 pm
Forum: God and Science
Topic: Yom, a dialogue
Replies: 32
Views: 2584

Yom, a dialogue

I would like to propose a dialogue, not a debate, about the ancient Hebrew word, Yom . What did that word mean to the original audience and what impact has that had, if any, on its subsequent translations and/or interpretations? I am being very specific because as I read other ongoing discussions, I...
by warhoop
Sat Jul 04, 2009 2:23 pm
Forum: Christian Theology
Topic: Repentance
Replies: 30
Views: 3695

Re: Repentance

I think how you view repentance and it's application depends upon the frame of reference. While the meaning of the word itself is self explanatory, turn away (correct my if I'm wrong, but I think the Greek means to do a 180), to whom you are using it in reference to has an impact on its application....
by warhoop
Sat Jul 04, 2009 1:44 pm
Forum: The Bible and Scripture
Topic: Commentary on Gen 1-2
Replies: 75
Views: 7725

Re: Commentary on Gen 1-2

In Biblical Case for an Old Earth, the author doesn't really start from scratch and do an exegesis of the text (I loaned this book to somebody and have been scratching my head since I recommended it trying to remember it's premise), rather it states that your understanding of the text may be colored...