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by warhoop
Mon Jul 20, 2009 11:44 am
Forum: The Bible and Scripture
Topic: Commentary on Gen 1-2
Replies: 75
Views: 7718

Re: Commentary on Gen 1-2

"In beginning God had created the heavens and the earth" Jac said: I wouldn't read anything into the "unspecified period of time", however. That only matters based on our understanding of yom as an age, which, I suppose, we are conceding for now. The more important question is whether or not this is...
by warhoop
Sat Jul 18, 2009 4:43 pm
Forum: Politics and World Events
Topic: Flag Desecration
Replies: 16
Views: 2714

Re: Flag Desecration

As a combat veteran, not just one who served in the military, I find flag burning abhorrent. But, and here's the rub, I fought for this nation. The supporters and the protesters; the flag burners and the non flag burners. So while I find it personally offensive and would prefer that flag burning did...
by warhoop
Sat Jul 18, 2009 4:15 pm
Forum: The Bible and Scripture
Topic: Commentary on Gen 1-2
Replies: 75
Views: 7718

Re: Commentary on Gen 1-2

"In beginning God had created the heavens and the earth" My translation, and yes I proofread it, and no there are not any words missing. OK, I'll go first. This verse make 3 blanket statements. 1. The heavens and the earth (Universe) were created. 2. God is the creator. 3. If God did the creating, ...
by warhoop
Fri Jul 17, 2009 3:53 pm
Forum: Creation Talk
Topic: Carnivorous animals before the fall...
Replies: 331
Views: 48815

Re: Carnivorous animals before the fall...

I have a question, kind of related to a debate on earlier pages about death being before or after the Fall. My question is, is physical death even a punishment? ... I wonder if the death God meant all along was spiritual, and Adam and Eve were created to be mortal beings. For, if OEC'ists think tha...
by warhoop
Fri Jul 17, 2009 2:23 pm
Forum: The Bible and Scripture
Topic: Commentary on Gen 1-2
Replies: 75
Views: 7718

Re: Commentary on Gen 1-2

So, let's try this. Keep it simple and as much as possible, instead of trying to "prove" YEC/OEC theology, start at the beginning and build our own theology aside from harmonization with or defense against current scientific paradigms. Let's strive to understand through the lens of an intelligent pe...
by warhoop
Fri Jul 17, 2009 1:55 pm
Forum: The Bible and Scripture
Topic: Hermeneutics
Replies: 22
Views: 5474

Re: Hermeneutics

I agree. And I asked because as an outsider to this discussion, it seemed that this was the point that DayAge was either missing or dismissing. I think the pyramid illustration is an apt metaphor.
by warhoop
Fri Jul 17, 2009 12:33 pm
Forum: The Bible and Scripture
Topic: Hermeneutics
Replies: 22
Views: 5474

Re: Hermeneutics

Sure... My question is framed out of reference to your statement: What is primary is that each book was written by a specific person to specific people at a specific time and for a specific purpose. That means each book has a definitive goal it wants to achieve, a particular message it wants to conv...
by warhoop
Thu Jul 16, 2009 8:06 pm
Forum: God and Science
Topic: Questions on God's creation days
Replies: 109
Views: 13251

Re: Questions on God's creation days

So alot of ink or I guess pixels nowadays, goes to "context" and "meanings within context" and "grammar," and all seem to be in agreement that context is important and indeed necessary for a "proper" interpretation. But, perhaps my context is different from another's and theirs yet different from an...
by warhoop
Thu Jul 16, 2009 6:26 pm
Forum: General Discussion & Introductions
Topic: Username Etymology (so to speak)
Replies: 14
Views: 1794

Re: Username Etymology (so to speak)

erawdrah wrote:It's just hardware spelled backwards. I used to manage a big box hardware store, and picked erawdrah so I wouldn't have to do Dave123548458514 thing. Nothing special :lol:
And here I was thinking it was some elven, Lord of the Rings, Dungeons & Dragons thing. :econfused:
by warhoop
Thu Jul 16, 2009 6:15 pm
Forum: God and Science
Topic: Yom, a dialogue
Replies: 32
Views: 2578

Re: Yom, a dialogue

I think there has been some excellent discussion up to this point and I have enjoyed reading subsequent comments after my last post to get caught up on the action. I will repost the scripture, because I would like to add to my previous comments, not necessarily debate the validity of another's comme...
by warhoop
Sat Jul 11, 2009 2:56 pm
Forum: Aberrant Christianity
Topic: Christian Universalism
Replies: 170
Views: 37465

Re: Christian Universalism

I'm sorry natcat, but this seems to be your doctrine of salvation in a nutshell:
Everybody's going to heaven. If you don't want to go to heaven, God will beat you into submission, and then you'll go to heaven.
by warhoop
Sat Jul 11, 2009 2:39 pm
Forum: The Bible and Scripture
Topic: Hermeneutics
Replies: 22
Views: 5474

Re: Hermeneutics

This threads seems to have died off, or maybe you're just reloading. Either way it is a very compelling discussion. So, pardon the intrusion, but I have a question. Given a collection of narratives that are united under one banner, with each member as an individual narrative originally composed by a...
by warhoop
Sat Jul 11, 2009 12:54 pm
Forum: Humor and Jokes
Topic: Natural Selection Chop
Replies: 9
Views: 1810

Re: Natural Selection Chop

That's hilarious!!!!
by warhoop
Sat Jul 11, 2009 12:31 pm
Forum: The Bible and Scripture
Topic: Commentary on Gen 1-2
Replies: 75
Views: 7718

Re: Commentary on Gen 1-2

And if you think the pre Fall creation was "very good," surely nothing after the Fall could be "very, very good." Oh wait, Numbers 14:7. How does that work out?
by warhoop
Sat Jul 11, 2009 11:58 am
Forum: God and Science
Topic: Yom, a dialogue
Replies: 32
Views: 2578

Re: Yom, a dialogue

As an aside, both cakes were delicious. I like cake ... y=P~ I guess I'm too dense to see the difference with or without the IN. Let me simplify it for myself. If I say the following statements: "For IN six days I made a cake, but I rested on the seventh day" or without the IN: "For six days I made...