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by Justhuman
Tue Jul 25, 2017 11:37 am
Forum: Questioning Non-belief
Topic: Key Questions for Atheists and Agnostics
Replies: 244
Views: 23242

Re: Key Questions for Atheists and Agnostics

If it is man made then it MUST be subjective for obvious reasons. If it is man DISCOVERED ( sort of like man discovering the Pythagorean theory) then it can be objective ( like the aforementioned theory). At better thought, it's neither man-made nor man-discovered, but more mankind-evolved. Since m...
by Justhuman
Tue Jul 25, 2017 10:41 am
Forum: Questioning Non-belief
Topic: Key Questions for Atheists and Agnostics
Replies: 244
Views: 23242

Re: Key Questions for Atheists and Agnostics

Justhuman wrote: Ultimately, the reason is man-made morality. Unless you believe that God hard-wired us in considering it wrong, it comes down to free choice. As I'm a Christian, you'd probably be able to guess where I think objective morality comes from. I'd like to hear where you think it comes f...
by Justhuman
Sun Jul 23, 2017 8:54 am
Forum: Questioning Non-belief
Topic: Key Questions for Atheists and Agnostics
Replies: 244
Views: 23242

Re: Key Questions for Atheists and Agnostics

Justhuman wrote: Do you mean you want some 'general rule of wrongfulness'? The basis would be it is wrong to do any harm to any being against their consent. The basis is too to avoid pain, or to willingly inflict as less pain as possible. That makes it too a human thing, for other beings might have...
by Justhuman
Sun Jul 23, 2017 6:41 am
Forum: Questioning Non-belief
Topic: Key Questions for Atheists and Agnostics
Replies: 244
Views: 23242

Re: Key Questions for Atheists and Agnostics

Ok, good. Since you agree that "my truck is a Chevrolet", is an objective claim, would you agree that the claim, "God exists" is also an objective claim? Yes. K Ok, great. Would you then agree that a man raping an eight year old girl, is objectively wrong? Meaning, regardless of anyone's opinion, i...
by Justhuman
Sun Jul 23, 2017 2:10 am
Forum: Questioning Non-belief
Topic: Key Questions for Atheists and Agnostics
Replies: 244
Views: 23242

Re: Key Questions for Atheists and Agnostics

Ken : How am I supposed to answer that question? Suppose I said all the matter that currently exist in the Universe existed prior to the Big Bang. could you prove me wrong using established scientific theories? Ken, if you insist that matter existed prior to the Big Bang, then either you don't beli...
by Justhuman
Sun Jul 23, 2017 1:58 am
Forum: Questioning Non-belief
Topic: Key Questions for Atheists and Agnostics
Replies: 244
Views: 23242

Re: Key Questions for Atheists and Agnostics

If a tree falls in the forest and there is nobody there to hear it, does it make a sound? Yes. When gravity pulls something to the surface of the Earth, the impact will cause an audible sound, and witnesses are not necessary for this to take place. that is an example of an objective truth. Ok, I th...
by Justhuman
Tue Jul 18, 2017 8:44 am
Forum: Questioning Non-belief
Topic: Why I am not an Atheist
Replies: 184
Views: 19918

Re: Why I am not an Atheist

To say God does not exist and KNOW it, one wouldn't need infinite knowledge, but SUFFICIENT knowledge concerning any event, "sighting," experience, or occurrence that would conclusively reveal God's existence. But the problem is, we don't know when and where that sufficient knowledge would need to ...
by Justhuman
Mon Jul 17, 2017 10:46 pm
Forum: Questioning Non-belief
Topic: Why I am not an Atheist
Replies: 184
Views: 19918

Re: Why I am not an Atheist

To say God does not exist and KNOW it, one wouldn't need infinite knowledge, but SUFFICIENT knowledge concerning any event, "sighting," experience, or occurrence that would conclusively reveal God's existence. But the problem is, we don't know when and where that sufficient knowledge would need to ...
by Justhuman
Mon Jul 17, 2017 4:54 pm
Forum: Questioning Non-belief
Topic: Why I am not an Atheist
Replies: 184
Views: 19918

Re: Why I am not an Atheist

To address the original issue with this: It is quite logical to state an absolute positive: White swans exists. The reason is obvious since all one needs to do is show that even ONE white swans exists. To state an absolute negative, there is no god, would require infinite knowledge of all since you...
by Justhuman
Sun Jul 16, 2017 10:49 pm
Forum: Questioning Non-belief
Topic: Why I am not an Atheist
Replies: 184
Views: 19918

Re: Why I am not an Atheist

Fair enough. It sounds like if we go back to the original question I asked you, you would pick the third option; that you are referring to a specific God (Christian God) when you say “you don’t believe God exists”. Is that correct? Ken Well... Since we are here on a Christian platform discussing ab...
by Justhuman
Sun Jul 16, 2017 8:35 am
Forum: Questioning Non-belief
Topic: Why I am not an Atheist
Replies: 184
Views: 19918

Re: Why I am not an Atheist

What I'm certain of is I at least and definitely do not believe that (a) God exists. I’m curious; what do you mean when you say “you don’t believe that (a) God exist”? The problem with speaking about God, is there isn’t a consensus of what or who God is. To say you don’t believe in the existence of...
by Justhuman
Sun Jul 16, 2017 4:33 am
Forum: Questioning Non-belief
Topic: Why I am not an Atheist
Replies: 184
Views: 19918

Re: Why I am not an Atheist

... But I'm curious, JH, what things do you believe make the God of the Bible makes impossible to exist? First of all let me state that I believe the Bible is a valid historic document, describing actual persons and events. But it is also a 'colored' version of theistic writers. It is not an unbias...
by Justhuman
Sun Jul 16, 2017 4:26 am
Forum: Questioning Non-belief
Topic: Why I am not an Atheist
Replies: 184
Views: 19918

Re: Why I am not an Atheist

... But I'm curious, JH, what things do you believe make the God of the Bible makes impossible to exist? First of all let me state that I believe the Bible is a valid historic document, describing actual persons and events. But it is also a 'colored' version of theistic writers. It is not an unbias...
by Justhuman
Sun Jul 16, 2017 2:52 am
Forum: Questioning Non-belief
Topic: Why I am not an Atheist
Replies: 184
Views: 19918

Re: Why I am not an Atheist

@Philip
If an atheist is arrogant for his way of not believing, is a theist therefore arrogant for his way of believing?
by Justhuman
Sun Jul 16, 2017 2:48 am
Forum: Questioning Non-belief
Topic: Why I am not an Atheist
Replies: 184
Views: 19918

Re: Why I am not an Atheist

What I'm certain of is I at least and definitely do not believe that (a) God exists. I’m curious; what do you mean when you say “you don’t believe that (a) God exist”? The problem with speaking about God, is there isn’t a consensus of what or who God is. To say you don’t believe in the existence of...