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by windywherever
Tue Sep 15, 2015 5:34 am
Forum: Bible Studies
Topic: Forsaking All
Replies: 104
Views: 15020

Re: Forsaking All

I do think rain is pushing works to be justified and this makes a mockery out of what Jesus did for us Hi Abel (hope you don't mind me shortening your nic). Would you mind posting some quotes from rain's post where you think he is teaching that we should earn our salvation through works? If you rea...
by windywherever
Tue Sep 15, 2015 5:17 am
Forum: Bible Studies
Topic: Forsaking All
Replies: 104
Views: 15020

Re: Forsaking All

Rain proceeded to try to make the argument from scripture, by adding to what scripture actually says. Rain said that Jesus gave instructions about "our" riches, when the text does not say that. I think there may be a bit of legalism happening here. I agree that the word "our" is not found in the Lu...
by windywherever
Tue Sep 15, 2015 4:26 am
Forum: Bible Studies
Topic: Forsaking All
Replies: 104
Views: 15020

Re: Forsaking All

While CHOOSING to not work MAY be an option for some ( very few), even Paul and the apostles worked. Even Christ worked ( up into the point he started His ministry). To work is NOT to be materialist. To value materials things OVER God is to be materialist. Hi Paul. I think there may be a misunderst...
by windywherever
Mon Sep 14, 2015 10:16 am
Forum: Bible Studies
Topic: Forsaking All
Replies: 104
Views: 15020

Re: Forsaking All

The gospel (good news) is not about foresaking anything ( other than sin of course). Hi Paul. Thanks for sharing. Would you be willing to say that forsaking our dependence on materialism is at least part of the gospel? Did you see the verses rain posted on the topic of forsaking materialism? What d...
by windywherever
Mon Sep 14, 2015 10:11 am
Forum: Bible Studies
Topic: Forsaking All
Replies: 104
Views: 15020

Re: Forsaking All

I would have never learned how much God loved me unless he took me to the woodshed for a good spiritual spanking and let me experience the consequences of irresponsible stupidity Hi BW! Thanks for sharing this. I like that you mention consequences, because I think that is a very real part of learni...
by windywherever
Mon Sep 14, 2015 7:40 am
Forum: God and Science
Topic: Why Christians' strong beliefs are as pathetic as everyone else's beliefs.
Replies: 44
Views: 4158

Re: Why Christians' strong beliefs are as pathetic as everyone else's beliefs.

I am absolutely sure of my faith but I dont see why its self defeating to admit it could all be wrong. I like this. It reminds me of a quote I heard before, "People who argue that God never changes are sometimes the most blind of all, because it usually means they've decided God can never reveal an...
by windywherever
Mon Sep 14, 2015 7:35 am
Forum: God and Science
Topic: Why Christians' strong beliefs are as pathetic as everyone else's beliefs.
Replies: 44
Views: 4158

Re: Why Christians' strong beliefs are as pathetic as everyone else's beliefs.

Like I said, I do want to be impartial. But I probably can't. I think this probably relates to #2 from the article ("We're hard-wired to have double-standards"). I don't think we're "hard-wired" for it, but it certainly does seem to come naturally enough. I doubt there's any person in the world who...
by windywherever
Mon Sep 14, 2015 3:42 am
Forum: Bible Studies
Topic: Forsaking All
Replies: 104
Views: 15020

Re: Forsaking All

Nobody is saying get saved and be lazy just that nothing man can do justifies him,only through Jesus and what he did are we justified. Hi ABCB. Thanks for sharing those thoughts. I don't think rain was suggesting that people should try to earn their salvation through their works. Maybe you are seei...
by windywherever
Mon Sep 14, 2015 3:19 am
Forum: Bible Studies
Topic: Forsaking All
Replies: 104
Views: 15020

Re: Forsaking All

But it depends on the context. Agreed. Context is important. In an earlier post you gave this explanation for context; " First, the text isn't talking about "our" riches. Jesus was speaking to a specific audience. In Luke 12:33, Jesus is speaking to his disciples. There's no warrant for you to add ...
by windywherever
Sun Sep 13, 2015 11:51 am
Forum: Bible Studies
Topic: Forsaking All
Replies: 104
Views: 15020

Re: Forsaking All

You know we all have our weaknesses,so try to think in these terms when you see Jesus addressing things to certian people. Hi there. I'm not so sure about this, "Jesus was only talking to specific people" theory. From what I understand the "gospel" is another way of saying, "good news" and that the...
by windywherever
Sun Sep 13, 2015 11:42 am
Forum: God and Science
Topic: The uselessness of science
Replies: 19
Views: 1368

Re: The uselessness of science

Science is, in reality, ALL about proving things. I like to think science is all about understanding things, even if the understanding we get leads us to understand there are some things we just can't understand (at least, not without further information or insight). Perhaps we can't prove somethin...
by windywherever
Sun Sep 13, 2015 9:26 am
Forum: Questions for Christians
Topic: Feeling the Love of God
Replies: 75
Views: 9686

Re: Feeling the Love of God

Why can't I feel it :( . From the OP. (Sorry I didn't read all the pages). Sometimes God's love requires a change in perspective before we can appreciate it (usually because God's standards are so very different to our own). For example, God may see it as loving to allow someone to experience pain,...
by windywherever
Sun Sep 13, 2015 8:53 am
Forum: God and Science
Topic: Why Christians' strong beliefs are as pathetic as everyone else's beliefs.
Replies: 44
Views: 4158

Re: Why Christians' strong beliefs are as pathetic as everyone else's beliefs.

As for debating the issue, I am so sorry that some have offended you, we should be able to discuss differing views without disrespect. Very much agreed. :clap: I think sometimes we have different ideas of what it means to show disrespect. Sometimes people imagine offense and sometimes people give g...
by windywherever
Sun Sep 13, 2015 8:42 am
Forum: General Discussion & Introductions
Topic: Please Introduce Yourself Here
Replies: 2263
Views: 344449

Re: Please Introduce Yourself Here

Hi all. My name is John. It's nice to be here. I'm a Christian who likes talking about Christian stuff. I'm originally from America. I consider myself to be non-denominational so I'm fairly open to hearing truth from just about any group or person. I look forward to lots of interesting chats. :ebigg...