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by DBowling
Mon Dec 16, 2019 4:23 am
Forum: Questions for Christians
Topic: Creation of information
Replies: 165
Views: 20222

Re: Creation of information

DB, let's discuss the example Cepheid variables. They are a class of stars with the nice property that their diameter and luminosity varies with time, 1-50 day period, and the period length is directly proportional to the mean luminosity. This makes them an important tool for measuring distances. I...
by DBowling
Sun Dec 15, 2019 7:21 pm
Forum: Creation Talk
Topic: Modern Humans Pre-Adam?
Replies: 9
Views: 2658

Re: Modern Humans Pre-Adam?

DB: I hold the standard Scriptural view that sin entered the world of mankind through Adam (Romans 5:12). But what about Romans 1:20? "For his invisible attributes, namely, his eternal power and divine nature, have been clearly perceived, ever since the creation of the world, in the things that hav...
by DBowling
Sun Dec 15, 2019 6:13 pm
Forum: Creation Talk
Topic: Modern Humans Pre-Adam?
Replies: 9
Views: 2658

Re: Modern Humans Pre-Adam?

DB: It took me years (actually decades) to finally wrap my brain around this... But it is really quite amazing to see how Special Revelation and General Revelation complement each other when you take the Biblical sequence of events in Genesis 1 and 2 at face value. 1. In Genesis 1:26-27 God created...
by DBowling
Sun Dec 15, 2019 2:52 pm
Forum: Creation Talk
Topic: Modern Humans Pre-Adam?
Replies: 9
Views: 2658

Re: Modern Humans Pre-Adam?

It took me years (actually decades) to finally wrap my brain around this... But it is really quite amazing to see how Special Revelation and General Revelation complement each other when you take the Biblical sequence of events in Genesis 1 and 2 at face value. 1. In Genesis 1:26-27 God created mank...
by DBowling
Sat Dec 14, 2019 12:42 pm
Forum: Questions for Christians
Topic: Creation of information
Replies: 165
Views: 20222

Re: Creation of information

OK, I should have asked about the responder. From where does he get the information? Nils The responder gathers data about the status of the moon and then organizes that data into structured meaningful code that is transmitted to the inquirer. What do you say about this quotation from Wikipedia /In...
by DBowling
Sat Dec 14, 2019 11:38 am
Forum: Questions for Christians
Topic: Creation of information
Replies: 165
Views: 20222

Re: Creation of information

But from where did the "inquirer" get the information? Nils The inquirer does not have the information he desires about the status of the moon. That is why he is asking the responder for information about the status of the moon. The responder gathers the information and then transmits that informat...
by DBowling
Sat Dec 14, 2019 11:18 am
Forum: Questions for Christians
Topic: Creation of information
Replies: 165
Views: 20222

Re: Creation of information

If you take my example with the full moon or astronomy generally. What does it mean that the information is "meaningful and understandable" to the moon? In your example, the moon was neither the sender or receiver of information. The moon was the object of the information. In your moon example, you...
by DBowling
Sat Dec 14, 2019 11:00 am
Forum: Questions for Christians
Topic: Creation of information
Replies: 165
Views: 20222

Re: Creation of information

Information has to be meaningful and understandable by both the sender and the receiver . If you take my example with the full moon or astronomy generally. What does it mean that the information is "meaningful and understandable" to the moon? In your example, the moon was neither the sender or rece...
by DBowling
Sat Dec 14, 2019 8:09 am
Forum: Christian Chit-chat
Topic: A Prominent Theologian Changes His Mind!
Replies: 7
Views: 2624

Re: A Prominent Theologian Changes His Mind!

Here is a link that I came across a while ago that led me to take another look at what the Bible says about abuse and divorce. Very significant to me was the historical and Scriptural context surrounding the "any cause" clause which provides additional insight into Jesus' response to the Pharisees i...
by DBowling
Sat Dec 14, 2019 3:33 am
Forum: Questions for Christians
Topic: Creation of information
Replies: 165
Views: 20222

Re: Creation of information

DB, I have some problems with you definition of information: a. My operating definition of information is "data with meaningful non-random structure and organization". If you take a tale which certainly has meaningful non-random structure and organization. Is this new information? Seems curious to ...
by DBowling
Thu Dec 12, 2019 4:16 am
Forum: Questions for Christians
Topic: Creation of information
Replies: 165
Views: 20222

Re: Creation of information

How is information defined and who defines it as such? I think I have directly addressed the central point in my posts. a. My operating definition of information is "data with meaningful non-random structure and organization". Is this your definition? Actually it comes from your Wikipedia article a...
by DBowling
Tue Dec 10, 2019 7:09 pm
Forum: Questions for Christians
Topic: Creation of information
Replies: 165
Views: 20222

Re: Creation of information

To clarify, (1) if I ask you what weather it's outside and you answer that it's raining I get a piece of information. If I answer... "It is raining outside." I have given you information. I have given you a string of alphabetical symbols that have "meaningful non-random structure and organization" ...
by DBowling
Mon Dec 09, 2019 9:45 am
Forum: Questions for Christians
Topic: Creation of information
Replies: 165
Views: 20222

Re: Creation of information

I was trying to answer your question... but let me try again. Here is the quote I was responding to... The mutation apparently was beneficial. Now we have a new piece of information: If a bacterium of type A gets a mutation in position P, this mutation is beneficial. This information was generated ...
by DBowling
Sun Dec 08, 2019 7:56 pm
Forum: Questions for Christians
Topic: Creation of information
Replies: 165
Views: 20222

Re: Creation of information

The data is that all bacteria after a certain time have the mutation. The meaning, the information is "If a bacterium of type A gets a mutation in position P, this mutation is beneficial". But again back to the point I was making, a beneficial mutation is not the same thing as new information. A be...
by DBowling
Sun Dec 08, 2019 3:41 pm
Forum: Questions for Christians
Topic: Creation of information
Replies: 165
Views: 20222

Re: Creation of information

The data is that all bacteria after a certain time have the mutation. The meaning, the information is "If a bacterium of type A gets a mutation in position P, this mutation is beneficial". But again back to the point I was making, a beneficial mutation is not the same thing as new information. A be...