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by Mazzy
Mon Jun 16, 2014 1:34 pm
Forum: Christian Theology
Topic: The Earth is 6000 years old?
Replies: 138
Views: 17086

Re: The Earth is 6000 years old?

Hi! But the point is why do you feel young earth perspective is necessary for salvation? If you agree that the serpent in the garden is Satan which is basic christian premise then Satan would have to already be on earth when it was created which to me proves the earth is older, among other things. ...
by Mazzy
Mon Jun 16, 2014 1:21 pm
Forum: God and Science
Topic: A discussion about Science and religion
Replies: 75
Views: 10998

Re: A discussion about Science and religion

I wish I knew what you were on about. I'm not surprised. As far as our telescopes can see, galaxies are receding with velocities proportional to their distance from us. So an astronomer on a distant galaxy sees the same velocity/distance galaxy recession pattern that we see. And yet you are the one...
by Mazzy
Mon Jun 16, 2014 6:42 am
Forum: God and Science
Topic: A discussion about Science and religion
Replies: 75
Views: 10998

Re: A discussion about Science and religion

Hi Paul ... I have seen better models, such as one based on wave theory, that does not require dark energy and dark matter. The reason why such theories are not taken up is because this one is galactocentric and defies the Copernican Principle. ... Hi Mazzy. Could you tell me more about the models?...
by Mazzy
Mon Jun 16, 2014 6:40 am
Forum: God and Science
Topic: A discussion about Science and religion
Replies: 75
Views: 10998

Re: A discussion about Science and religion

I wish I knew what you were on about. I'm not surprised. As far as our telescopes can see, galaxies are receding with velocities proportional to their distance from us. So an astronomer on a distant galaxy sees the same velocity/distance galaxy recession pattern that we see. And yet you are the one...
by Mazzy
Mon Jun 16, 2014 6:33 am
Forum: Christian Theology
Topic: The Earth is 6000 years old?
Replies: 138
Views: 17086

Re: The Earth is 6000 years old?

Christ said believe in me not believe in me and YEC, you are promoting a works based salvation and not grace Starhunter. Read Exodus and the story of the plagues and how the blood of the lamb was painted on the doors to protect those within, notice it did not matter if they were doubters, or sinner...
by Mazzy
Mon Jun 16, 2014 6:24 am
Forum: God and Science
Topic: How God Creates
Replies: 330
Views: 36876

Re: How God Creates

Matter is created through the principles of freedom and independence.. I can't reconcile this. SH would need to elaborate on 'freedom and independence'. I'm assuming there is more to this, as his choice of terms (as you so stated) makes the statement incomprehensible. ..and yet [matter] it is fully...
by Mazzy
Mon Jun 16, 2014 3:30 am
Forum: God and Science
Topic: How God Creates
Replies: 330
Views: 36876

Re: How God Creates

Matter is created through the principles of freedom and independence.. I can't reconcile this. SH would need to elaborate on 'freedom and independence'. I'm assuming there is more to this, as his choice of terms (as you so stated) makes the statement incomprehensible. ..and yet [matter] it is fully...
by Mazzy
Mon Jun 16, 2014 3:27 am
Forum: Christian Theology
Topic: The Earth is 6000 years old?
Replies: 138
Views: 17086

Re: The Earth is 6000 years old?

A continued reliance on the scriptures will lead to the truth. I know plenty of people who rely on scripture to back their false christs, and false beliefs. But that's neither here not there. Please answer my question: You do realize there are OECs who do rely on scripture, don't you? When I read t...
by Mazzy
Mon Jun 16, 2014 2:45 am
Forum: God and Science
Topic: A discussion about Science and religion
Replies: 75
Views: 10998

Re: A discussion about Science and religion

The fact is earth is very special. It is more than just our goldilocks position, it is about the iron core and protective magnetosphere, plate tectonics, Jupiter as protector and so much more. Mankind is also special because according to evolutionary theory there is no reason why we should not be h...
by Mazzy
Mon Jun 16, 2014 1:42 am
Forum: God and Science
Topic: How God Creates
Replies: 330
Views: 36876

Re: How God Creates

Here is a SUMMARY of my posts in this thread that may help some inquirers. Creation is a non violent allowance and sublimation of power Matter is supported by other forces unseen The universe has a strong background of energy The Bible talks about these powers How God creates by Christ The modern w...
by Mazzy
Sun Jun 15, 2014 10:29 pm
Forum: Christian Theology
Topic: The Earth is 6000 years old?
Replies: 138
Views: 17086

Re: The Earth is 6000 years old?

Jannah

There are a couple of serious replies to your OP. Can you respond to the serious replies and let's just ignore the person trying to derail the thread?
by Mazzy
Sun Jun 15, 2014 10:24 pm
Forum: God and Science
Topic: How God Creates
Replies: 330
Views: 36876

Re: How God Creates

Starhunter, Your profile says you're not a Christian. Please give us some background on your religious beliefs, so we can understand where you're coming from. The name Christian originally came from outsiders naming them that. So far I have been addressed as Straw man, and labelled deluded, self ri...
by Mazzy
Sun Jun 15, 2014 10:12 pm
Forum: God and Science
Topic: How God Creates
Replies: 330
Views: 36876

Re: How God Creates

Here is a SUMMARY of my posts in this thread that may help some inquirers. Creation is a non violent allowance and sublimation of power Matter is supported by other forces unseen The universe has a strong background of energy The Bible talks about these powers How God creates by Christ The modern w...
by Mazzy
Sun Jun 15, 2014 10:01 pm
Forum: Christian Theology
Topic: The Earth is 6000 years old?
Replies: 138
Views: 17086

Re: The Earth is 6000 years old?

Starhunter wrote: Is it necessary to believe in a YEC to be saved? How could you properly appreciate what salvation is if you are relying on the opinions of unbelievers, and not the word of God? Straw man. You do realize there are OECs who do rely on scripture, don't you? Hi Rick Does SH ever have ...
by Mazzy
Sun Jun 15, 2014 9:58 pm
Forum: God and Science
Topic: A discussion about Science and religion
Replies: 75
Views: 10998

Re: A discussion about Science and religion

Such a model defies the Copernican Principle in that it makes the Milky way special. In this model the Milky Way is at or near the centre of the universe. IOW it is a galactocentric model. A universe of hundreds of billions of galaxies and we're at the center. Has that coincidence ever raised a red...