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by Morny
Tue Jun 06, 2017 8:47 pm
Forum: God and Science
Topic: Evolving from Simple to Complex?
Replies: 161
Views: 20724

Re: Evolving from Simple to Complex?

Stop playing coy. Francis Bacon was a Christian btw. You actually owe a lot to many Christians upon whom much of modern science stands upon the shoulders of. Look into it if you don't believe me, the names of people. So much for your anti-religion-spliligion thing. Who is doing the science is irrel...
by Morny
Tue Jun 06, 2017 8:45 pm
Forum: God and Science
Topic: Evolving from Simple to Complex?
Replies: 161
Views: 20724

Re: Evolving from Simple to Complex?

I would say almost every Christian on this forum is VERY pro-science. As for religion - I have no use for it - hate it, actually. Religion IS the cause of a great amount of conflict upon the earth. Course, I don't view Christianity as a religion, but as truth. Thanks. That's helpful and good to hear.
by Morny
Tue Jun 06, 2017 8:44 pm
Forum: God and Science
Topic: Evolving from Simple to Complex?
Replies: 161
Views: 20724

Re: Evolving from Simple to Complex?

Yes, but what I was meaning was people treat that like a religion. Like they make a claim and say"oh science backs this up" or something like that. And if u make a anti-scientific claim then it's treated like heresy almost. Ah, OK. That's understandable. I've said this multiple times here that I sp...
by Morny
Tue Jun 06, 2017 1:57 pm
Forum: God and Science
Topic: Evolving from Simple to Complex?
Replies: 161
Views: 20724

Re: Evolving from Simple to Complex?

Well it's not entirely accurate, but i figure uk that and are just using a simple example. It would be B since according to current geologic and evolutionary thought birds came before flying mammals, which came b4 whales. A good thought, and I agree with your answer B. But answering my question is ...
by Morny
Tue Jun 06, 2017 1:57 pm
Forum: God and Science
Topic: Evolving from Simple to Complex?
Replies: 161
Views: 20724

Re: Evolving from Simple to Complex?

thatkidakayoungguy wrote:I think it's rightfully said that science has become the new religion.
The easiest way for me to think of the difference between science and a religion is that science, using the scientific method, reaches a consensus way more often than not.
by Morny
Tue Jun 06, 2017 1:56 pm
Forum: God and Science
Topic: Evolving from Simple to Complex?
Replies: 161
Views: 20724

Re: Evolving from Simple to Complex?

It amuses me when people, secular enthusiasts, talk of science like Science as though such is some wise, all-knowing person. Silliness. I don't know one scientist or "secular" enthusiast, who even remotely thinks science is all-knowing. If anything, science people think science has barely scratched...
by Morny
Mon Jun 05, 2017 6:24 am
Forum: God and Science
Topic: Evolving from Simple to Complex?
Replies: 161
Views: 20724

Re: Evolving from Simple to Complex?

It really doesn't matter how one groups them. [...] The question's premise is that the evidence of biological traits is to determine the grouping of 3 animals. Maybe hold off bringing in topics like the Big Bang for a while. So what preliminary grouping conclusions did you reach regarding some trai...
by Morny
Mon Jun 05, 2017 6:23 am
Forum: God and Science
Topic: Evolving from Simple to Complex?
Replies: 161
Views: 20724

Re: Evolving from Simple to Complex?

Humans are great at reading patterns into things, [...] Yes, both a curse ("The Earth is clearly flat.") and a blessing ("Hmmm... that's odd, the east coast of S. America matches the west coast of Africa."). Fortunately, the scientific method is spectacularly effective at separating curses from ble...
by Morny
Sun Jun 04, 2017 6:13 pm
Forum: God and Science
Topic: Evolving from Simple to Complex?
Replies: 161
Views: 20724

Re: Evolving from Simple to Complex?

How might the scientific method work on a claim of common descent? Using the panoply of biological traits, how would you group hog-nosed bats, robins, and blue whales? A, B, or C? A: --+----- blue whale | +--+-- robin | +-- hog-nosed bat B: --+----- robin | +--+-- hog-nosed bat | +-- blue whale C: -...
by Morny
Sat Jun 03, 2017 8:35 pm
Forum: God and Science
Topic: Evolving from Simple to Complex?
Replies: 161
Views: 20724

Re: Evolving from Simple to Complex?

In short, science is ever changing and absolute statements have NO PLACE in science, especially in the fields that are NOT direct observable. Just because physics gets such amazing results, doesn't mean ALL sciences are "created" equal. Absolutely correct. Some sciences are more equal than others. ...
by Morny
Thu Apr 14, 2016 6:39 pm
Forum: God and Science
Topic: Shroud of Turin
Replies: 1731
Views: 228311

Re: Shroud of Turin

[...] after I gracious[sic] answered your post, [...] Incorrect. After numerous requests, you still dance around the original crucial scientific falsifiability question, regarding the reliability of C14 dating of just the cloth itself. You may to be confused, thinking that I'm saying that the propo...
by Morny
Tue Apr 12, 2016 12:30 pm
Forum: God and Science
Topic: Shroud of Turin
Replies: 1731
Views: 228311

Re: Shroud of Turin

And yes, of course [extensive C14 dating to the 14th century] would put SOME doubt in my mind and say SOME simply because, as I have pointed out over and over, the C14 dating is onlY ONE line of evidence [...] Temporarily assuming the image is supernatural in origin, would my extra C14 dating to th...
by Morny
Sun Apr 10, 2016 4:06 pm
Forum: God and Science
Topic: Shroud of Turin
Replies: 1731
Views: 228311

Re: Shroud of Turin

That is ALL that can be said about the C14 tests, everything else is speculation. I can only assume from your answers that future multiple shroud-wide swatch dating to the 14th century would still not have an impact on your belief in authenticity. Your out-of-hand dismissal of evidence (either actu...
by Morny
Wed Apr 06, 2016 4:40 am
Forum: God and Science
Topic: Shroud of Turin
Replies: 1731
Views: 228311

Re: Shroud of Turin

Kurieuo wrote: Morny, for what it's worth, I was strongly skeptical of the shroud.
Belief or not is OK. You're looking at and weighing evidence, even evidence contrary to your initial beliefs. Sounds like a good (dare I say "scientific"?) approach to me.
by Morny
Wed Apr 06, 2016 4:39 am
Forum: God and Science
Topic: Shroud of Turin
Replies: 1731
Views: 228311

Re: Shroud of Turin

That is ALL that can be said about the C14 tests, everything else is speculation. I can only assume from your answers that future multiple shroud-wide swatch dating to the 14th century would still not have an impact on your belief in authenticity. Your out-of-hand dismissal of evidence (either actu...