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by pat34lee
Tue Oct 08, 2013 11:15 pm
Forum: God and Science
Topic: Is evolution a hard science?
Replies: 72
Views: 9282

Re: Is evolution a hard science?

Fruit Flies: http://www.icr.org/article/5532/ The tests performed mean absolutely nothing nada if they have failed to understand how flawed and unrelated the tests are. They in no way demonstrate the scope and scale needed to evolve something, they are essentially performing meaningless rather igno...
by pat34lee
Tue Oct 08, 2013 11:03 pm
Forum: God and Science
Topic: Is evolution a hard science?
Replies: 72
Views: 9282

Re: Is evolution a hard science?

At 30k years old the Venus is older than human civilization, but it isn't older than humans, not by a long shot. It dates fell the most recent 10% of human history - not hominid history, but h. Sapiens history - which is why it's incongruous on that list. The problem with that list is that there ar...
by pat34lee
Tue Oct 08, 2013 10:30 pm
Forum: General Discussion & Introductions
Topic: Christian vs. public school education
Replies: 68
Views: 9214

Re: Christian vs. public school education

I'm more inclined to take umbrage at the suggestion that I "have no idea what <I> am doing" homeschooling my children. But, hey, the modern public school system has been around since the mid-19th century, and clearly everything about humanity has been better since then. I mean, prior to that everyo...
by pat34lee
Tue Oct 08, 2013 12:56 pm
Forum: God and Science
Topic: Is evolution a hard science?
Replies: 72
Views: 9282

Re: Is evolution a hard science?

I've been through this first link of yours, and almost to an item the list it contains is either poorly or inconclusively documented. The items with comparatively better documentation fall into two main categories, with the exception of the Venus of Willendorf (which is a little incongruous on the ...
by pat34lee
Tue Oct 08, 2013 12:23 pm
Forum: God and Science
Topic: Is evolution a hard science?
Replies: 72
Views: 9282

Re: Is evolution a hard science?

Decades don't even scratch upon a discussion concerning speciation, even then there is a reason that fruit flies have a short life span, it is balanced by a huge population..... You can't take a fraction of that population, expose it to a stressor for a short amount of time, have a few mutations an...
by pat34lee
Mon Oct 07, 2013 11:42 pm
Forum: God and Science
Topic: Is evolution a hard science?
Replies: 72
Views: 9282

Re: Is evolution a hard science?

The two theories can hardly be compared. Gravity is an ongoing phenomena. There are ways to test it, record its effects on other objects, etc. You cannot test evolution. The years spent testing fruit flies and bacteria have shown that large-scale, or macroevolution is impossible. Even if they had m...
by pat34lee
Mon Oct 07, 2013 5:32 pm
Forum: God and Science
Topic: Is evolution a hard science?
Replies: 72
Views: 9282

Re: Is evolution a hard science?

Quite so. Fossil DNA is unlikely to be the way to disprove Evolution. There are plenty of other ways. Finding a dinosaur fossil in pre-cambrian rocks would be a good one. Have you ever heard of OOPARTS (out of place artifacts)? These are found constantly. http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/ciencia/t...
by pat34lee
Mon Oct 07, 2013 2:07 pm
Forum: God and Science
Topic: Is evolution a hard science?
Replies: 72
Views: 9282

Re: Is evolution a hard science?

I agree and second Hugh's post. And Pat, a theory being able to be falsified is a technicality only if we find opposing evidence. You could falsify the theory of gravity given that technical point, but I don't think we will. The two theories can hardly be compared. Gravity is an ongoing phenomena. ...
by pat34lee
Mon Oct 07, 2013 1:18 pm
Forum: Humor and Jokes
Topic: Historical Villain Whitewashing Game
Replies: 68
Views: 20317

Re: Historical Villain Whitewashing Game

Dudeacus97 wrote: Benedict Arnold?
That's the one. Your turn.
by pat34lee
Sun Oct 06, 2013 8:47 pm
Forum: God and Science
Topic: Is evolution a hard science?
Replies: 72
Views: 9282

Re: Is evolution a hard science?

The theory of evolution is very easy to falsify. All we need is to find an organism with no derivative DNA. A great many organisms have not had their genes sequenced yet. Jerry Coyne lists a number of others in "Why Evolution Is True." Thousands of scientists are working on aspects of evolution, di...
by pat34lee
Sun Oct 06, 2013 2:53 pm
Forum: God and Science
Topic: Is evolution a hard science?
Replies: 72
Views: 9282

Re: Is evolution a hard science?

"Which scientific inquiries use only indirect means of testing? Only those where direct observation, measurement, etc. cannot be done." Quite so. Events widely separated from us in time or space, such as the formation of mountain ranges or the chemical content of stars are examples. "300 genes out ...
by pat34lee
Sun Oct 06, 2013 2:16 pm
Forum: Creation Talk
Topic: Abiogenesis, creation, and natural selection
Replies: 26
Views: 6731

Re: Abiogenesis, creation, and natural selection

But all of that is just one interpretation. Again, where does the Bible say "And the Earth is 6,000 years old"? It doesn't, and you know it. Your "timelines" are not part of the Bible, they are an after-the-fact interpretation of the Bible made by someone named Ussher in the 1600s. Again, the Bible...
by pat34lee
Sun Oct 06, 2013 12:21 pm
Forum: Creation Talk
Topic: Abiogenesis, creation, and natural selection
Replies: 26
Views: 6731

Re: Abiogenesis, creation, and natural selection

I would like to ask the same of anyone who believe in the gap theory or long-age days in Genesis 1. I don't think that's the point. The point is, if you are arguing that the Bible explicitly states that the Earth is only a few thousand years old, you have to have some verse that explicitly says " T...
by pat34lee
Sun Oct 06, 2013 11:46 am
Forum: God and Science
Topic: Are you guys anti-gay?
Replies: 11
Views: 1880

Re: Are you guys anti-gay?

Are people born with a preference for strawberry ice cream? To a certain extent, yes. Your taste buds are, in fact, programmed by your genes, which is why some people prefer some tastes over others. It's also why certain types of foods taste differently to certain people (for instance, one person m...
by pat34lee
Sat Oct 05, 2013 11:19 pm
Forum: Resources & Reviews
Topic: Noah's ark
Replies: 44
Views: 10292

Re: Noah's ark

http://www.answersingenesis.org/assets/images/media/cartoons/after-eden/20030825.gif Theo no one here says that God couldn't have done it that way, we say that the Bible doesn't say it was a global flood global. No, but it would be strange if a local flood killed off all the people and air breathin...